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To: Heatseeker; Lady In Blue
Here ya go...Here..Let me know what you think...regards
9 posted on 04/17/2005 2:49:25 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: ken5050

Staring in 1939, all German boys were required to join. It was not optional. If he did not join, he probably wouldn't have been shot, but would likely have been taken away from his parents.


10 posted on 04/17/2005 3:26:09 PM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: ken5050
Interesting. But OTOH I didn't know membership was mandatory either. I always found it ironic that Cardinal Ratzinger and JPII, given the polar opposites of their positions in life during the war, felt so much in common, until I read this from The Tablet.

JOSEPH RATZINGER was born in Marktl am Inn, Bavaria, in 1927, and grew up under Hitler’s shadow in the Thirties. His family was anti-Nazi, but not involved in resistance; his father, a policeman, accepted assignments in progressively smaller towns in order to stay clear of politics. The young Ratzinger drew inward, immersing himself in the florid Bavarian piety of the era. In later reflection on the war and Nazism, many German theologians of Ratzinger’s generation, such as the famed moralist Bernard Häring, saw the dangers of blind obedience as its central lesson, fuelling a reform streak in German Catholicism. Ratzinger, however, drew a different conclusion. Only a Church with a strong central authority and rock-solid doctrinal verities, he concluded, can withstand a hostile state or culture. This conviction – one he shares with Pope John Paul II – has informed much of his later Vatican career.

11 posted on 04/17/2005 3:36:07 PM PDT by Heatseeker (Requiem in Pacem, Ioannes Paulus Magnus)
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To: ken5050
Ratzinger, a staunch conservative dubbed "God's Rottweiler," has said he joined the Hitler Youth when membership became compulsory. He and his brother were later drafted but deserted. The cardinal claims he never fired a shot and that resistance would have meant death.

I don't want to be too hard on the guy. It's really easy to judge effortlessly from present vantage point, but even though resistance would have meant death, if everyone felt that resistance was thus futile, then hitler would have indeed succeeded. So, while I guess the desire for self-preservation is understandable, God bless those who didn't let that be their first consideration.

12 posted on 04/17/2005 3:49:15 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("I know my Sheep, and my Sheep Know Me.")
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To: ken5050

'Ratzinger, a staunch conservative dubbed "God's Rottweiler," has said he joined the Hitler Youth when membership became compulsory. He and his brother were later drafted but deserted. The cardinal claims he never fired a shot and that resistance would have meant death.'


15 posted on 04/17/2005 5:08:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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