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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
FYI - Williamson bashing here.

The visceral reaction towards some of William's statements makes one wonder whether he (Williamson) is on to something.

29 posted on 04/17/2005 7:38:49 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: Judica me

"Surely!"


30 posted on 04/17/2005 8:00:29 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Judica me

I for one, am sick of seeing that "quote" of Bishop Williamson. From my research, no one can give evidence that this is a direct quote. It's been reported to me that this was an anti-Catholic reporter who "eavesdropped" on a conversation the bishop was having during a gathering in a social hall after the event. So, it's dubious at best.

I've asked numerous people who've posted it in order to calumniate the man to provide the context and just let me know what was said before and after. No one ever has.

Beyond that, the last time I checked, the historicity of the Jewish Holocaust was not a matter of Catholic doctrine.

And beyond that, if you go onto various websites sposored by Holocaust interested parties like the ADL, they can't make up their minds about what happened at that time period. There is a huge rift among these groups between "conservatives" and "liberals" about whether to include homosexuals as part of the Holocaust. This is because for decades it was reported that Hitler and his henchmen were all "perverted homosexuals". Now that story has become politically incorrect.

There is a lot of mythology mixed in with the events of WWII. I believe Williamson is not afraid to say that.

But the "quote" as cited doesn't have Williamson's careful language and qualfiers that he has always used when I've heard him speak. He's much more unfriendly towards high level freemasons in his language than he is towards anyone who is Jewish.

I can hunt down quotes of Williamson where he prefaces his comments with "I know this is not politically correct but it must be said. There are anti-Catholic groups of Jews and Freemasons that have made themselves enemies of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Now, by no means am I saying that about all Jews or all freemason. I'm referring specifically to those that are against Jesus Christ and his Church."

Anyone can hear the Bishop by getting ahold of his taped interviews with Bernard Janzen over the last 20 years. You can hear him from before during and after the consecrations in 88 all the way to 2003 and still going. He's consistent, he's rationale and he's very holy and Catholic. I would say he's saintly.


31 posted on 04/17/2005 9:47:27 PM PDT by Gerard.P (If you've lost your faith, you don't know you've lost it. ---Fr. Malachi Martin R.I.P.)
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