Posted on 04/15/2005 4:34:46 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
you describe my parish as well, much larger young families and much more traditional Masses, with actual right and wrong preached from the pulpit. i very much disagree with the assertion that younger families are MORE liberal than their parents families. that is not what i see at all.
a good Jewish friend of mine was aghast to learn that Catholics are not TAUGHT the contents of the papal encyclicals or the Catechism. He took it as a given that faithful practicing Catholics KNEW what their Church's doctrine is. sadly, they don't, unless they search it out on their own. my oldest daughter attends an all girls Catholic HS in Washington DC, the nun who taught the class, was astounded when my daughter walked in and asked to be permitted to read from the Catechism in re; abortion/euthanasia/death penalty, after a class discussion on those topics the previous class period which had in no way REFERENCED the Catechism. My daughter was permitted to read from the Catechism and of course now the nun thinks she is "RELIGIOUS" and a "SERIOUS RELIGION STUDENT" because of it. I found it astounding that it required a student from the class to refer to the operative documents when discussing the Church's doctrine on those issues.
I'd go to a Latin Mass if I could, but the closest is about 1 1/2 hours each way, and for a lot of different reasons, that could not work for me. You're fortunate to be in that situation.
Maybe some you will wake up, hopefully before it's too late.
Oh fiddle-faddle, sink. Absolute codswallop!
You wish!!
In my experience, it's exactly the reverse. Long suffering Catholics in the pews for the last 30-40 years have heroically sat through homily after insipid homily about how the miltary is evil, big business is wicked and how we need to hug each other more and have let it all drift in one ear and out the other. They have gone home with their children, knelt down, and said their prayers and devotions and been sustained in their faith by the knowledge that the polyester clad hippie who lived in their parish rectory had absolutely nothing in common with the Pope and those united with him.
All of us who've survived the last half century of apostasy have done so by completely ignoring the activist priests and bishops who've been around us and focusing instead on the often beleaguered and abandoned Holy Father.
You are a provocateur. Catholics are not OK with women priests and you know it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
"It would also be a good idea to find out why "Catholic" clergy who dissent are not run out of the clergy. We can do quite well without them."
I asked Fr. Most that one time. He said the Vatican is afraid of a declared schism. What we have now is an undeclared schism.
"Many couples who practice Natural Family Planning state that it brings them closer together spiritually. In other words, it is a blessing in their lives, not a cross or burden."
My husband and I took NFP classes after about 3 years of marriage. It completely turned our lives around. What was possibly heading for separation turned into a blessed 10 year anniversary last month. Oh, and baby number 3 on the way!
I cringe when I talk to family and friends that say they aren't having anymore kids by way of surgery, etc. It just breaks my heart! My husband and I weren't exactly planning on having another one but sometimes God knows more than we do!! We are thrilled and didn't realize how happy we could be at the prospect of another. It's not always easy leaving things like this open to God but he definitely knows what's best for us.
If anyone reading this has never taken NFP classes, I HIGHLY recommend them! I wish all couples in the Catholic Church had to take them as part of their pre-marriage classes.
Thanks for the kind words and wishes. I appreciate it.
More conservative than you on these questions? That says little. Your comparison proves it.
Perfect.
Then you ought to resign.
Ummmnhhh....what do you suppose GBCDOJ was hinting at when he asked "what can WE do about it?"
>>that is not what i see at all.<<
Me neither. And the difference between liberal Catholics and orthodox/conservative Catholics is that like pro-abortion people, they are not making enough babies to replenish themselves. Conservative Catholics are having 4 or more babies and every one of them are there every Sunday, Holiday and Holy Day of Obligation!
i am convinced it is regional and directly related to the strength and orientation of the bishop. my diocese is relatively conservative, and as you and i have discussed in the past, there are dioceses that are utter abominations and the masses reflect that.
"Vatican II never happened? I wish..."
... and is continuing to happen. The next pope (including Ratzinger) will endlessly bore us with how the work of Vatican II will go on and how it is bearing fruit. I already know the script!
>> there are dioceses that are utter abominations and the masses reflect that<<
Truer words were never typed!
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