Posted on 04/15/2005 4:34:46 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
So do I!
Congratulations Grampa!
Besides, mantillas are elegant garments! And inexpensive.
One think we may thank God for is that Greeley is much more obsessed with profiting from soft-core porno novels than he is with instructing us benighted Catholics who still stick to the Teaching Magisterium and recognize the outer enthusiasms and enthusiasts for "the spirit of Vatican II" for the frauds that they clearly are.
Conservatives in the actual Catholic (and not schismatic) pews defend papal authority so that it may be used vigorously to run dissidents of all stripes and all ranks out of Holy Mother the Church.
See post 87 please. I'm interested in your thoughts.
Greeley is a sort of SSPX liberal. He hates the papacy and the Church but for his own eccentric reasons. Same behavior/different excuses.
SS: It would also be a good idea to find out why "Catholic" clergy who dissent are not run out of the clergy. We can do quite well without them. We will also do a whole lot better without them. Let the purge begin.
Also, if those "Catholic" couples ignore the Teaching Magisterium on contraception, then they are better described as former Catholics or make-believe Catholics or "Catholics" in a persistent state of what certainly appears to be mortal sin. If the priests hearing their confessions (if any) are encouraging them, likewise.
Bump that -- exactly what a member of the Tribunal said when speaking at our church this week.
Torie is not a Catholic and, given Torie's knee-jerk support for "moderate" Republicans aka RINOs, not much of a conservative either. Torie gets along well with Sinkspur which should be no surprise. Torie would really be in love with Sinkspur's Bishop Delaney.
You have promised not to be Catholic which is a good thing unless you massively modify your ideological commitments. The Catholic Church has enough of a need to cleanse the stables of dissident trash without recruiting more of them.
The Roman Catholic Church is not and never has been and never will be some sort of brainless and unprincipled club of feel-good Kumbaya sob sisters.
As to the Roman Catholic Church and an appropriate attitude toward its enemies, yes, by all means, take a hike. And, of course, MYOB.
Lest we have to repeat the usual ritual: You are, of course, free to display the abysmal manners of rooting around in the underwear drawer of a Catholic Church thankfully not your own and Catholics are free to respond to your lack of knowledge. Catholics are not Libertoonians.
Many couples who practice Natural Family Planning state that it brings them closer together spiritually. In other words, it is a blessing in their lives, not a cross or burden.
Bishop Delaney apparently "apologized" after the fact. Of course, the sheep are the shepherd's responsibility and exposing them to wolves like Fr. Rhode Island is not part of the job description. Cracking down on the heterodox in the flock IS part of the job description but Delaney apparently lacks the spine to do his job or the intellect or faith to understand the nature of his job.
It will take a decade or two of actually Catholic bishop(s) purging what and whom need purging after Delaney's departure, but the Church in Fort Worth can be restored. With God all things are possible.
Must be Greeley. Has the same panting, grabbing, and slightly myopic style as do his sex novels.
Also a bit un-informed.
Sure.
That explains the 5 million or so which showed up in Rome, and the estimated 2 BILLION that watched all or some of the TV coverage beginning with the announcement of "whats-his-name's" death.
There are some folks to whom your statement applies, partially, Sink.
While USCC bureaucrats and most US Diocesan bureaucrats and Bishops can actually name the reigning Pontiff, they couldn't care less about his teachings.
Significant difference.
Insightful.
Greeley is among the very large crowd of morons which believe that All of Church History Began in 1963.
Years ago I read a mongraph is which the economic losses of the Church owing to confiscation from 1789 to 1815 were sketched out. In a crude sense this robbery laid the financial foundation of the welfare state.
Well I support some troglodytic Pubbies too. Senator Coburn is one of my favorites. And for that matter, Senator Chaffee is one of my least favorites. Be careful not to overstate your case is my best advice.
The case of younger Catholics and their commitment to orthodoxy is very interesting. I don't have any studies, any poll data to cite, but I do have quite a bit of personal experience in the area. I'm Catholic and I'll be 24 next week. I went to Notre Dame and had the chance to observe hundreds of young Catholics of all stripes for 4 years.
In my experience, most young people (here I'm talking college-age) that were raised Catholic still identify as Catholic. A few reject it outright, but most seem to like the label. Of those who call themselves Catholic, very few are 100% in line with Vatican teachings. Some of this is due to the fact that my generation has been denied adequate catechesis. Many of these young Catholics do not believe in the Real Presence, Purgatory, etc because they were not taught these things. They haven't a clue about what the CHurch teachings on so many issues.
On the other hand, while young Catholics are clueless about teachings like the Real Presence, it seems that everyone knows about the sexual teachings. Those attract the most attention and the most dissent. Those become a sort of litmus test for how good a Catholic you really are.
How active are these dissenting young Catholics in the Church? Most are not very active, especially in terms of Sunday Mass attendance. Notre Dame is an interesting case because there student Masses are also a major social event. After graduation, many heterodox Catholics who attended Mass regularly at ND stop doing so. This seems to be typical for most Catholics in their 20s. Mass attendance and involvement with a parish usually pick up in young people around 30 when they start getting married and having children. People want their kids to be raised in a Church, even if they are at odds with most of what that church teaches.
The exception to do this are the young Catholics who do stay active in the Church in their 20s, especially with regards to Mass attendance. By and large these Catholics tend to be highly orthodox and conservative. But they are a small minority both in the Church and among their peer group. It's hard to gauge just how much influence they will have on the future of the Church. On one hand, they are where most new priestly vocations are coming from. They also tend to have larger families. But they will also be outnumbered in roughly a decade, when their heterodox peers become active in the Church again, while remaining heterodox.
So it should be really interesting over the next few decades to see how my generation will influence the Church.
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