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To: HarleyD
yes - yes - we all know the Romans passage - Lord knows the swarm has been fully activiated to post it

- y'all ignore Matthew though

Matthew 5:45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous

God wants us to glorify Him and He helps us to do that through His Holy Spirit. God is in total control of our lives. Everything for good and for ill is meant for our growth and edification so that we may let our lights so shine before men that they may see our good works and glorify our Father who is in heaven.

Thats great, and I can agree with this - but its not what you stated initially

I use to be angry with God until I came to the full realization that God was completely sovereign over my life and that in everything that happens, He causes it to happen for my good.

To which Im pointing out that "rain" in this sense - is not always good

maybe we need to quantify the meaning of "good" with regards to spiritual good or physical good, or is that putting too fine a point on it.

either way - have a great day

15 posted on 04/11/2005 10:05:25 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
maybe we need to quantify the meaning of "good" with regards to spiritual good or physical good

Actually, what "we" need to do is to stay on topic.

The topic of this thread is Francis Schaeffer's personal letter, dated August 28, 1969, on "Being Angry at God". If you have something edifying to post, I'm sure we would love to read it. Otherwise, I would ask that you be a man of your word, leave the thread so that others can post their thoughts without criticism, and not attempt to start another flamewar yourself.

16 posted on 04/11/2005 10:20:55 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: Revelation 911
"To which Im pointing out that "rain" in this sense - is not always good"

You can't have tulips without a little rain. ;O)

18 posted on 04/11/2005 10:42:59 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Revelation 911; HarleyD
To which Im pointing out that "rain" in this sense - is not always good

I hate to rain on your parade but the sense in which rain is used is this verse is a good rain. In context, God sends what is needed, both sun and rain, to both the wicked and righteous, and Jesus uses this as an example of how the righteous should treat their enemies, just like God treats his enemies, with goodness.

No need to falsely dichotomize in some gnostic sense between the spiritual and the physical. Perhaps you meant to dichotomize between the temporal and the eternal?

19 posted on 04/11/2005 10:45:42 AM PDT by GLENNS (And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity)
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