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On behalf of clans Duggan and Whalen, you are hereby anathematized and stripped of Irish identity.

You have neither the authority nor the power to do that. Pog mo thon, agus teigh go hifreann! (Sorry, I don't know how to do sine fada in html)

Why does any properly catechized Catholic in communion with the Holy See care about the head games that you must play with yourselves in order to make a contrived system seem to work?

"Contrived system" !!!!!! You are the one who follows a faith that has to generate paragraph after paragraph, page after page, of circumlocutions to get around the fact that a lot of what they do, clearly violates the plain sense of scripture. Occam's razor suggest that "ye make void the word of God by your traditions".

Unless and until you understand Catholicism, please do NOT set foot in the Catholic Church again.

Fear not, I only go there for weddings and funerals.

Not too long ago I was actually musing about the possibility of returning to some sort of more liturgical form of worship (Catholic or Orthodox) and I wondered if I could ever get past the flat contradictions between Scripture and tradition that forced me out in the first place. But the Catholic attitudes I've encountered here at FR -- attitudes that I previously would not have believed could exist in the 21st century -- have convinced me that there's much MORE than just a problem of Bible interpretation. You, sir, are the best reason I know NOT to be Catholic.

Tomas de Torquemada, O.P., inquired and rendered judgments with his colleagues. The Spanish government of Ferdinand and Isabella imposed the punishments.

Yeah, and Judge Greer just rendered the judgements; he didn't actually pull Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. Nice try. Old Torq is still responsible for the deaths of many Jews and "heretics".

This thread is a waste of time. Say what you want from now on; you can even have the last word. I have better things to do.