[dartuser]

Fine, I'll bite ...

John 14:1-3
1 Thess. 1:9-10
1 Cor. 1:7
Titus 2:13
1 John 3:2-3

Now go read http://www.pre-trib.org/article-view.php?id=120

[ET(end tyranny)]

No wonder you were afraid to post the verses in their entirety. They do not support a rapture, pre trib or otherwise.

Here's an example of what you listed.

1 Thess. 1:9-10
1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

First of all notice that delivered is in the PAST tense, meaning it already happened. I suspect they are speaking of the crucifixion.

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Oh! look here's a clincher.... NOT!!!!

1 Cor. 1:7
1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Someone's smoking some good weed to invent a pre trib rapture out of those words!

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Oh boy! This one is nearly as bad as the last one.

Titus 2:13
2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

There is absolutely nothing to suggest a pre trib rapture or any rapture in that verse.

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John 14:1-3
14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

These verses suggest that he is going to ready a room somewhere. My first question is where? My second question is where is G-d's Kingdom supposed to be? These verses help to support my position that maybe people are taken up AFTER the tribulation while the new heaven and earth are created. Certainly nothing in the verses to indicate a pre trib rapture.

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And last but certainly not least in the 'rapturously' funny verse cites....

1 John 3:2-3
3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Again, absolutely nothing to support a pre trib or any rapture.

Seems my post 84 was right on the money.