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I'm not a fan of Abraham Joshua Heschel (whom Klinghoffer invokes in this essay), but this is a tremendous article nonetheless. Food for thought.
1 posted on 04/05/2005 11:13:01 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The Pope the Jews Need
.....would be 'Lebanese'......?


2 posted on 04/05/2005 11:34:13 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Convert from ECUSA

You might like this.


3 posted on 04/05/2005 12:19:11 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayivra' 'Eloqim 'et Ha'Adam betzalmo, betzelem 'Eloqim bara' 'oto; zakhar uneqevah bara' 'otam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
What the pope should have done, these voices say, is repudiate aspects of the foundational layers of Christian tradition, including the New Testament itself,..

Whoa, this guy wants a pope that will destroy the New Testament. Hardly. What we need is a pope that will recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capitol.

5 posted on 04/05/2005 12:45:19 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Convert from ECUSA

Interesting article:

"Judaism is not about suffering. It is, in the final analysis, about spreading knowledge of the God of Israel to the world. This was the biblical patriarch Abraham's mission. It is the mission implicit in God's commandment to the Jews, through Moses, to serve the world as a "kingdom of priests" (Exodus 19:6), spiritual ministers at the service of all people."

He could also have added King David's exclamation to God "You have given me a Torah for ALL the nations.", and Isaiah's numerous prophecies about all peoples coming to worship God on Mount Zion. This original intended mission of the Jews was the whole point of them being chosen by God and Him calling Israel His "First-born son."

The first-born was the "goel" or kinsman-redeemer who was supposed to redeem his siblings from captivity and bondage in the event of their abduction or being taken in slavery. This is why the first-born received a double-portion of his father's estate. This is why the Pope referred to the Jews as our "Elder brothers" - their original mission was to free the rest of us from bondage and captivity to satan by restoring us to the covenant with Yahweh.

Unfortunately, then as now in Klinghoffer's words:

".. the job God gave us as moral leaders acting in the interest of humanity, a job that—frankly—we currently neglect."

It was the neglect of this God-given job (and Christians have been no better at many times) that necessitated God's direct intervention by coming and having to do it Himself.


7 posted on 04/05/2005 1:04:22 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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Sorry, once I saw the gentleman was quoting the hateful judgements about the Catholic Church by the former priest, Jim Carroll, I clicked out of the story.

I wonder if Mr. K even considered the possibility the ex-priest might be harshly judgemental of the Church he once took an oath to serve as a way of extinguishing the guilt which naturally occurs once one breaks their vows.

Have you ever heard an ex-wife or an ex-husband trash the one they had previously promised to love all of their life?

It is quite natural, sadly, that expriests attack the Church for her failings, real and imagined, because that justifies (in their mind)their abandoning their vows.

In fact, try and find an expriest cited who condemns their failures and not the Church. Someone else - the Catholic Church in this instance- is always to blame. Typical liberal guilt in action

10 posted on 04/05/2005 4:18:42 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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The Jews don't need a pope.


12 posted on 04/05/2005 4:20:03 PM PDT by Marguerite
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I read today that there have been 35,000 separate articles since the pope passed away on Saturday. This one has to be the dumbest.
24 posted on 04/05/2005 8:29:52 PM PDT by Judica me
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