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To: thoughtomator; sionnsar; ken5050

The problems in the AC revisionist provinces go far, far deeper than one homosexual heresiarch living a life style condemned by the Bible. All the hierarchal Churches are riddled with homosexuals and always have been. Being called names is the least of the problems of Episcopalians, or all the rest of us in The Church for that matter. For reasons nearly as old as the AC itself, the heresiarchs of ECUSA and those in Canada have decided to justify their creation of a new "religion" by resort to new age "Christian" semantics and talk of "diversity". The Fathers have always been clear on what we are to do with heretics... pray for them but separate ourselves from them and never, ever, pray with them.

St. John Chrysostomos wrote of St. Paul's thinking, in Homily 6 on Titus:

"By Contentions," he means, with heretics, in which he would not have us labor to no purpose, where nothing is to be gained, for they end in nothing. For when a man is perverted and predetermined not to change his mind, whatever may happen, why shouldest thou labor in vain, sowing upon a rock, when thou shouldest spend thy honorable toil upon thy own people, in discoursing with them upon almsgiving and every other virtue?

How then does he elsewhere say, "If God peradventure will give them repentance" (2 Tim. ii.25); but here, "A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject, knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth, being condemned of himself"? In the former passage he speaks of the correction of those of whom he had hope, and who had simply made opposition. But when he is known and manifest to all, why dost thou contend in vain? why dost thou beat the air? What means, "being condemned of himself"? Because he cannot say that no one has told him, no one admonished him; since therefore after admonition he continues the same, he is self-condemned."


8 posted on 04/03/2005 10:09:14 AM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: Kolokotronis

I enjoyed your comments..thanks..and the added bonus..I learned a new word.."heresiarchs"


9 posted on 04/03/2005 10:12:56 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: Kolokotronis

Is this St. John of the Golden Mouth? (?) He makes perfect sense.


14 posted on 04/03/2005 2:14:58 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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