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To: dangus
2 Maccabees describes how the Jews offered atonement for their comrades who had fallen in battle while committing sin. They collected the war loot and offered it to the priests of the Temple, who rededicated the Temple. And on Dec. 25th, the Spirit of the Living God came among Men to dwell in the Temple.
John 10:22-30
"...And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter

This is an example of a holiday that is not commandmended to be kept by God. Obviously observing it is not wrong. The difference is that it does not attempt to replace or supplant God's holy daysl. 2 Maccabees even shows that the kept God's Holy days:

2Ma 10:5 Now upon the same day that the strangers profaned the temple, on the very same day it was cleansed again, even the five and twentieth day of the same month, which is Casleu.
2Ma 10:6 And they kept the eight days with gladness, as in the feast of the tabernacles, remembering that not long afore they had held the feast of the tabernacles, when as they wandered in the mountains and dens like beasts.

And as a sidenote, there is no mention of December 25th in 2 Maccabees.

60 posted on 03/26/2005 12:06:29 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

>> This is an example of a holiday that is not commandmended to be kept by God. Obviously observing it is not wrong. The difference is that it does not attempt to replace or supplant God's holy daysl. 2 Maccabees even shows that the kept God's Holy days: <<

How preposterous it would be to suggest tha it was meant to SUPPLANT or REPLACE a holy day? Since when does the observance of one feast supplant or replace another? Wherever did you get the bizarre notion that I endorsed something of the sort?

Now, I could have better noted that I did some calendar translation. What your source calls the "five and twentieth day of the same month," is of course referring to "Caslau" 25th.

I'm not sure where you're from, unless "KC" is a hint. But where I'm from, New york, Hannukah, the feast of the Taberbacles, is a big deal. And if you realize that the end of Hannukah is the 25th of "Caslau" and Christmas is the 25th of December, you recognize that plainly, Caslau is very close to December. As close as they can be given that one is a lunar calendar and one is solar calendar.

Had I had any question of your ability to recognize that the Jews kept a different calendar from us, I would certainly have noted the translation from one calendar to the next.

Given that Christmas (Dec. 25th) is celebrated nine months after the historical day of his death (Mar. 25th), according to the Roman calendar, and the anicent belief (cited by Constantine in your own source) that prophets died on the day they were conceived, there is strong basis that this translation of "Ceslau" to December is warranted.


73 posted on 03/26/2005 6:34:34 AM PST by dangus
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