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To: DouglasKC
Hey Doug :)

What is your response to Acts 15, where the apostles and Church elders met in Jerusalem and decided that Gentiles need not observe the Law of Moses, but to only abstain from things sacrificed to idols, fornication, drinking of blood, and eating strangled meat. They said if you follow this, you will do well. There was no mention of observing Holy Days, dietary customs, or cleaning rituals.

If these Holy Days and dietary customs needed to be observed, then why not put them in the letter. In fact the letter they sent listed the essential items, yet no reference to the things you preach.

JM
134 posted on 03/28/2005 6:24:30 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: JohnnyM

Forgive me for butting in.....but after reading Acts 15 as you suggested I still do not see any abolishment of God's Holy Days. God establised these Sabbaths and Feast Days forever(for all generations),Leviticus Chapter 23 and Jesus observed all of these Days and Sabbaths.

You are confusing the abolishment of the ritualistic civil code of Moses(Deuteronomy Chapter 27) with the establishment of God's Holy Days, a different thing altogether. The Levitical priesthood was also abolished and Jesus became our new High Priest....Hebrews Chapter 8....but still no abolishment of God's Sabbaths and Feast days.

By the way, this would have been an excellent time for Peter to tell everyone that the Sabbath was now abolished(Acts 15:21)....but he did not!


135 posted on 03/28/2005 3:17:44 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: JohnnyM
What is your response to Acts 15, where the apostles and Church elders met in Jerusalem and decided that Gentiles need not observe the Law of Moses, but to only abstain from things sacrificed to idols, fornication, drinking of blood, and eating strangled meat. They said if you follow this, you will do well. There was no mention of observing Holy Days, dietary customs, or cleaning rituals.
If these Holy Days and dietary customs needed to be observed, then why not put them in the letter. In fact the letter they sent listed the essential items, yet no reference to the things you preach.

Is it your position that the letter included anything and everything that the gentiles were to observe and anything else was up to them?

For example the letter mentions nothing about not killing, nothing about having false gods, nothing about hating your neighbor and nothing about greed. In fact, there are thousands of things NOT mentioned that any Christian would recognize as sinful behavior.

The answer of course is that this letter didn't occur in a vacuum. The gentiles WERE being taught to obey and observe the basic tenents of Judaism and early Christianty...in other words they were being taught about the sabbath, holy days and ten commandments. Thankfully God left us clear scriptural record that this was so:

Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

See there...verse 21? Every sabbath the gentiles were learning about God's law in the synagogues.

You can't have it both ways on this. If you are saying that omission of specific instruction in the bible is permission to disregard the bible on God's holy days then it's also permission to disregard the bible in every other moral precept and law that God enumerated in the old testament.

138 posted on 03/28/2005 6:42:20 PM PST by DouglasKC
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