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To: DouglasKC
It is not an organization…

You adhere to the teachings of a church organization. It has it's own tradition.You can rail against organization or tradition, but no human starts from scratch and develops in a vacuum.

I do attend worship services

I'm very glad to hear that. Too often the "modern" view is "I don't need no organized religion" when religion most deeply involves community.

United was formed by approximately 20,000 former members of the Worldwide Church of God.

I have a close friend who belonged to the WWWCG. I would think the experience would make one even more appreciative of a church that manages in this world to persevere for centuries. New churches, new teachings come and go in waves, making their predictions and proclamations, then splitting and falling and passing away and usually shouting some "revelation" that the church that has stood for millennia preaching the Word of God "has it all wrong.".

I hope you will understand my skepticism.

123 posted on 03/27/2005 6:30:10 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
You adhere to the teachings of a church organization. It has it's own tradition.You can rail against organization or tradition, but no human starts from scratch and develops in a vacuum.

Let me repeat myself:

The church I belong to is the body of Christ. It is not an organization, but the spiritual body of believers who follow the teachings of Christ and believe on him for salvation. This is the same church established in Acts 2 and that is the church of which I am a member.

United Church of God could cease to exist and I would still be a member of the church described above.

Now certainly United has traditions, some of which I agree with and some which I don't. But those traditions could disappear and it wouldn't make much of a difference in how I worship God.

I have a close friend who belonged to the WWWCG. I would think the experience would make one even more appreciative of a church that manages in this world to persevere for centuries.

I can not speak from actual experience about the World Wide Church of God because I was never a member. However, I know many people who were. Most I know had great experiences, some I know had bad experiences. However the bad experiences came about (I believe) because of poor decisions and/or poor interpretation of scripture by individual ministers, not corporate policy. In short, some ministers got on power trips.

Now I also happen to believe that the church has persevered for centuries...just not as one corporate entity. I don't think United or Worldwide represents the whole Church of God anymore than I think Roman Catholicism represents the whole Church of God. I think God calls people out of all sects and denominations.

Naturally though I do believe that United most faithfully follows the doctrines of the first century church established by Christ. It is for that reason I worship with them.

I do understand your skepticism. I get it a lot. I'm well aware that many considered Worldwide a cult and that some today, by extension, believe that United is similar. However, the only things really the same is some of the doctrine. I think the biggest difference is the attitude of the ministry. The ministry makes a true effort toward "servant led" leadership and don't consider themselves above the flock. They recognize that each member, including themselves, plays a role in both the body of Christ and the corporate church.

127 posted on 03/27/2005 7:01:54 PM PST by DouglasKC
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