[biblewonk]

Under certain extreme curcumstances, I believe that too, although I can't really back it up at this time.

In other words you believe you can die again after being born again.

[shekkian]

What I mean is when you look at the case of Roger Martinez, who was the singer/growler of a Christian metal band, Vengeance Rising back in the 80's. Through a series of unpleasant events within the band and personal conflict, he eventually renounced his salvation and turned completely atheist.

Later, his pastor was talking with Roger's ex-wife, and she said he was a Christian at one time. The pastor said, in that case he still is. In my mind, it just didn't connect.

Furthermore, how about that guy who shot up that church in Wisconsin and then killed himself. What happens to him now?