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To: Tribune7
Did yall decide whether Judas was saved?
Has anyone read John 17:12? Did anyone look up Jesus words that call Judas the son of perdition? Jesus stated that all those the father gave him he would keep except the Son of perdition?
I was just wondering if we were speculating or searching the scriptures?

There are also many verses that state that salvation is from confesion. Romans 10:9.

Speaking to Baptism, it is tradition not scripture that Holy Spirit baptism comes upon you with salvation. Acts 19 1-6 shows different. You may be indwelt by the Spirit at salvation, but baptism is another experiance. Acts 4:31 demonstrates another filling of the spirit, or baptism.

If the disciples were saved, why did Jesus seperate the giving of the Holy Spirit into 2 instances. One in John 20:22 and another in Acts 1:8
183 posted on 03/23/2005 3:33:06 PM PST by Rhadaghast ( Free Lancer for Christ, Paradigm Shifting Specialist.)
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To: Rhadaghast
Did yall decide whether Judas was saved?

I stayed out of that one.

184 posted on 03/23/2005 3:45:52 PM PST by Tribune7
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