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It was PRE ORDAINED. His people rejected Him and instigated all of it.

You: That you believe this does not make it true.

The Biblical fact that it was pre ordained doesn't falsify that the Bible also said His people would not find Him acceptable AND the Jewish Priests instigated this. If the Jewish Priests had not come to get Him in Gethsemane it He wouldn't have been crucified. It is the Jews who started all of it.

God grief!

Why is truth your worst enemy?

You can't imagine it away.

I'm glad He did that for all of us however I am not going to thank mortals (dare I say it? Jews)! for instigating it and ensuring it was carried out. I'm not part of the ridiculous "Christ killer" crowd either.

[malakhi]

that the Bible also said His people would not find Him acceptable AND the Jewish Priests instigated this.

Your Bible says this. Mine doesn't.

It is the Jews who started all of it.

That seems to be a pretty common theme with you.

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If the Jewish Priests had not come to get Him in Gethsemane it He wouldn't have been crucified. It is the Jews who started all of it.

Are you suggesting that it might have been better had he not been crucified?