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To: rmlew

After His Resurrection, however, He appeared to his disciples on many occasions, and they believed and knew He was the Messiah and thus they turned the world upside down for Jesus Christ, in fact, dying for Him, beginning in Jerusalem.
And that is a foundation of your faith. It is not proven and means nothing to me.



27,000 documented scrolls found in an old cave near the Dead Sea authenticates the scriptures. The scrolls written of Jesus, called the New Testament, were as recent as 20 years after he lived upon earth. They match up perfectly to the New Testament in the Holy Bible scriptures.


66 posted on 03/23/2005 9:06:40 AM PST by Daisy4
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To: Daisy4
27,000 documented scrolls found in an old cave near the Dead Sea authenticates the scriptures. The scrolls written of Jesus, called the New Testament, were as recent as 20 years after he lived upon earth.

The Dead Sea Scrolls do not contain any "New Testament" writings. Claims that partial fragments of "NT" texts were found have been refuted. The oldest extant, nearly-complete manuscripts of "NT" texts date from centuries after the life of Jesus.

71 posted on 03/23/2005 9:22:05 AM PST by malakhi
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To: Daisy4

None of the Dead Sea scrolls do anything of the kind.


76 posted on 03/23/2005 9:37:11 AM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: Daisy4; Eastbound
After His Resurrection, however, He appeared to his disciples on many occasions, and they believed and knew He was the Messiah and thus they turned the world upside down for Jesus Christ, in fact, dying for Him, beginning in Jerusalem.

Proverbs 7 is the story of the Church and Jezebel…

Proverbs 7

1 My son, keep my words, And treasure my commands within you. 2 Keep my commands and live, And my Torah (law) as the apple of your eye. 3 Bind them on your fingers; Write them on the tablet of your heart. 4 Say to wisdom, "You are my sister," And call understanding your nearest kin, 5 That they may keep you from the immoral woman (Jezebel), From the seductress who flatters with her words.

6 For at the window of my house I looked through my lattice, 7 And saw among the simple, I perceived among the youths, A young man devoid of understanding, 8 Passing along the street near her corner; And he took the path to her house 9 In the twilight, in the evening, In the black and dark night. 10 And there a woman met him, With the attire of a harlot, and a crafty heart.

11 She was loud and rebellious, Her feet would not stay at home. 12 At times she was outside, at times in the open square, Lurking at every corner. 13 So she caught him and kissed him; With an impudent face she said to him: 14 "I have peace offerings with me; Today I have paid my vows. 15 So I came out to meet you, Diligently to seek your face, And I have found you.

16 I have spread my bed with tapestry, Colored coverings of Egyptian linen. 17 I have perfumed my bed With myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. 18 Come, let us take our fill of love until morning; Let us delight ourselves with love. 19 For my husband is not at home; He has gone on a long journey; 20 He has taken a bag of money with him, And will come home on the appointed day."

21 With her enticing speech she caused him to yield, With her flattering lips she seduced him. 22 Immediately he went after her, as an ox goes to the slaughter, Or as a fool to the correction of the stocks, 23 Till an arrow struck his liver. As a bird hastens to the snare, He did not know it would cost his life. 24 Now therefore, listen to me, my children; Pay attention to the words of my mouth: 25 Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways, Do not stray into her paths;

26 For she has cast down many wounded, And all who were slain by her were strong men. 27 Her house is the way to hell, Descending to the chambers of death.

Christmas and Easter

Jeremiah 16

19 O LORD, my strength and my fortress, My refuge in the day of affliction, The Gentiles (Goyim) shall come to You From the ends of the earth and say,

"Surely our fathers have inherited lies, Worthlessness and unprofitable things."

20 Will a man make gods for himself, Which are not gods? 21 "Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know My hand and My might; And they shall know that My name is the LORD.

Jeremiah 10

1 Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel. 2 This is what the LORD says:

"Do not learn the ways of the nations (Goyim) or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. 5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

Works

Revelation 2
18 "And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write, "These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass: 19 "I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. 20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Colossians 2
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Messiah.

Rabbi Sha’ul is a second generation Pharisee, so when he refers to Holy Days (Festivals) he’s talking Leviticus 23.

So if the Festivals are shadows of Messiah (they are), why does the church prefer to dine at Jezebel’s table?

Yeshua, Conception during Chanukah, Born during Tabernacles, Crucified on Pesach, Resurrected on First Fruits.

Early on, the Romans/Italians/Catholics got together and decided that the Feasts of The LORD were too Jewish, so they made up their own using the Feasts as templates. The Sabbath became Sunday, Passover became Easter and what they did with Chanukah is nothing less than amazing.

Chanukah begins 25 Kislev, lasts 8 days, the first and last days are Holy Days. Christmas is (as you know) December 25th. And 8 days later is New Years Day.

And to top it off they moved the whole thing off the lunar calendar to the solar. They got as far away from the Feasts of The LORD as they could!!! But it’s been done before…

1 Kings 12
25 Then Jeroboam built Shechem in mount Ephraim, and dwelt therein; and went out from thence, and built Penuel. 26 And Jeroboam said in his heart, Now shall the kingdom return to the house of David:

27 If this people go up to do sacrifice in the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, then shall the heart of this people turn again unto their lord, even unto Rehoboam king of Judah, and they shall kill me, and go again to Rehoboam king of Judah. 28 Whereupon the king took counsel, and made two calves of gold, and said unto them, It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem: behold thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

29 And he set the one in Bethel, and the other put he in Dan. 30 And this thing became a sin: for the people went to worship before the one, even unto Dan.

31 And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi. 32And Jeroboam ordained a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like unto the feast that is in Judah, and he offered upon the altar. So did he in Bethel, sacrificing unto the calves that he had made: and he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made.

33 So he offered upon the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, even in the month which he had devised of his own heart; and ordained a feast unto the children of Israel: and he offered upon the altar, and burnt incense.

So what to do?

Climb Mt. Zion…

Isaiah 2
1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.

2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days That the mountain of the LORD's house Shall be established on the top of the mountains, And shall be exalted above the hills; And all nations shall flow to it. 3 Many people shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The Prodigal Returns!

102 posted on 03/23/2005 1:23:12 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (T.O.E. = Unification = Echad!)
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