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I'll simply ask you this. In the gospels, when Jesus tells his disciples that he must die, they are shocked and horrified. Why would this be the case, if they knew that moshiach was to be a "suffering servant"?

Even the original 12 apostles did not completely understand that Jesus had to be a sacrificial lamb.
It wasn't until Jesus rose from the dead that they beheld this.

I am not that knowledgeable in the Jewish Bible, except the Torah, so please accept my apologies. I can give you multitudes of prophetic scriptures that were written by the prophets that were fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ in the New Testament if you would like.

Even the original 12 apostles did not completely understand that Jesus had to be a sacrificial lamb.

That is exactly my point. That Jews were not expecting a "suffering servant" messiah. This was not a Jewish belief.

I can give you multitudes of prophetic scriptures that were written by the prophets that were fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ in the New Testament if you would like.

No thank you. Most of these 'prophecies' are not properly prophecies at all, but rather typographies 'discovered' by interpretively reading the Christian story into the Hebrew scriptures. Typically, these 'prophecies' are wrenched completely out of context. A good example of what I mean is Hosea 11:1. A reading of the complete chapter in context shows that this verse is not prophetic, and could not possibly be referring to Jesus.