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To: malakhi

Please check your Torah, Isaiah 53. This scripture was fulfilled in Jesus Christ.


15 posted on 03/21/2005 7:43:02 PM PST by Daisy4
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To: Daisy4
Please check your Torah, Isaiah 53. This scripture was fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

The Torah is the five books of Moses. Isaiah is in the part of the tanakh called the nevi'im, or 'Prophets'.

I'm quite familiar with the Christian mistranslations and misinterpretations of Isaiah 53. Having had this debate innumerable times on FR, I have no burning interest in rehashing it again. There are plenty of Jewish sites you can go to if you are really interested in a Jewish understanding of the passage.

I'll simply ask you this. In the gospels, when Jesus tells his disciples that he must die, they are shocked and horrified. Why would this be the case, if they knew that moshiach was to be a "suffering servant"?

The fact is, the idea of a "suffering servant" messiah was a new interpretation developed by the early Christian movement after the brutal execution of their teacher. It was not an extant Jewish concept. Those who asked Jesus when he would establish his kingdom were expressing the normative understanding of messiahhood as found in a literal reading of authentically messianic passages of the Hebrew scriptures.

17 posted on 03/21/2005 7:53:53 PM PST by malakhi
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