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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I went to the links. It appears the first link seems full of criticism without much in the way of scriptural back up. It looks to be circular in its attemtpt to make a point. The second appears to be more clear in its attempt to point out the authors problems. Even that author is quick not to discredit the whole book and in fact is almost encouraging the reading of it. Some of the arguments appear to be splitting of hairs. The example of Warren's use of the word "driven" seems to be much about nothing. There are some other points brought out that likely need clarification by Warren as to his intent in the book. However, the book in general is worded in a soft manner and there are many who prefer a hard edeged presentation on mans reason for being. In addition, we're all here to do one thing, but how we go about doing it could be vastly different. I think that's what Warren is trying to get to. He is giving the keys for a person to through prayer, study and thought find the ideal way to be of service to God and his kingdom.


120 posted on 03/15/2005 6:55:38 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Actually, the first link's author uses over 2 dozen scriptural differences to make his point.

>>However, the book in general is worded in a soft manner and there are many who prefer a hard edeged presentation on mans reason for being. In addition, we're all here to do one thing, but how we go about doing it could be vastly different. I think that's what Warren is trying to get to.<<

Respectfully, I disagree.

I believe that Jesus Himself had one way of "presenting" His message. He told them the Truth - whether or not they wanted to hear it. He didn't soften the message to those who didn't like a hard-edge presentation - he simply brought them to their sin and made them see it for what it truly is. It's supposed to be hard to handle. It's supposed to be difficult to take. Its supposed to be uncomfortable, because sin is a very uncomfortable, ugly, hard, and difficult thing.

In John, when Jesus is laying out the Truth about Him being the bread of life, many of His followers left, grumbling that His teachings were too hard. "Who can live up to this?" sort of thing.

Notice that Jesus simply let them go. He didn't chase after them saying, "Wait! What if we had a Wednesday service where you can wear jeans? What if we had a basketball court and fooseball table? Would that make it easier for you to stay and listen?"

No. He simply let them go, turned to the 12 and said, "Are you going to leave me as well?". They, of course, stayed, knowing that the road would be difficult, and the Truth sometimes hard to hear.

Preach the Word. As it is. With no frills or softening. God will grow which seeds He chooses.


130 posted on 03/15/2005 7:54:33 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("..nunchuck skills, bo-staff skills, computer hacking skills....")
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