[Kolokotronis]

Thanks to both of you. I didn't suspect that the conservative dioceses would teach this, but at least from an Eastern Orthodox point of view, to the extent that one is in communion with dioceses that do, and it seems that the 11 or 13 sionnsar refers to are, then doesn't that make this teaching, if it is the teaching of the large majority of dioceses in ECUSA, the theological teaching of ECUSA? As I said, if it does, then this explains almost everything that is going on in ECUSA. Add to it the heretical notion of "open communion" and it seems that ECUSA, and every church in communion with it, has forfeited any claim, however tenuous, to being a part of the one holy catholic and apostolic church.

[sionnsar]

It is not the formal teaching of ECUSA, anywhere (I would hope). I thought I would go to the 39 Articles of Religion, but many of them contradict this notion of universal salvation in one way or another. There do seem to be those who are saying this, however. And they're looking ever more likely to end up on the outside of the worldwide Anglican Communion, when the slow Anglican process comes to an end. (I note here that some alliances and reunifications are occurring in the Continuum, with some expectation that "The Day" is coming, the day when ECUSA is ousted and they can become the "Third Province".)

[RonF]

Add to it the heretical notion of "open communion"

What's this? My ECUSA parish invites all baptized Christians to come forward to the altar rail for Holy Communion. Is that what you mean?

[servantboy777]

I think the rogue bishops make statements like they do and you don't here any detraction's from the higher officials at ECUSA--basically, silence is acceptance.

I would bet my next paycheck that their are more in the Episcopal church who do not believe in an open communion than do.

Heck, our sermon today stressed that Jesus is the way, truth and life. If you take care of the truth, the truth will take care of you.

I cannot even imagine any others except up in the liberal Northeast, some in the east and the far west that would stand up and say that Jesus is really only one way.

Think about it, the majority of the Episcopal church is made up of persons 40 and above. That would lead one to believe more in traditional teachings, would you not agree?