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To: Agrarian; Kolokotronis
These people are vicious.

So very true!

8 posted on 03/10/2005 12:16:53 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: sionnsar; Kolokotronis
I was perhaps more embittered sounding in my post than I really personally feel. I knew people who had their lives ruined by those folks, and others who were cowed into submission by the strong-arm tactics. But I never had it personally affect me. I can, however, say this:

Had I tried to stay in the Anglican world, I would have been eaten up and consumed by anger over what those people did and do. They are wolves in shepherd's clothing. I truly say that without the slightest feeling of rancor in my heart (I think.) Becoming Orthodox and getting away from it has allowed me to escape that, and I look on it now pretty much with dispassion, and my words, harsh as they are, are really just cold statements of fact based on observation.

In that regard, as K. says, they are pathetic, and I truly do feel sorry for them. But when you are in the Episcopalian/Anglican world, and you are bearing the brunt of having to deal with what they are doing, it is (or at least it was for me), extremely difficult to just move on. In my post, I was trying to show that I truly understand. Non-Anglican Protestants don't understand the impact that liberal theology had on Anglicans, because they are used to the idea of constant splitting and leaving -- and that's just not in the Anglican tradition. The effect on Anglicans, on the other hand, has been to basically ensure that whole generations of at least nominally Christian Anglicans completely left off going to any Church. As long as Anglicanism was intact, they were at least in the pews every Sunday, with the capability of hearing the words and teachings of Christ. Now they are on the golf course or watching Sunday morning talk shows rather than go to the local three-ring circus.

Theological illiteracy and spiritual apathy was the rule in the old Episcopal Church, and the liturgy, beautiful as it is, simply doesn't have adequate breadth to educate the man in the pew on the full range of Christian morals and dogmas, the way that the Orthodox liturgical services do.

So the vast majority of members were not spiritually or psychologically equipped to have the sophistication to get out of Anglicanism without getting out of Christianity altogether. If they were, the continuing churches, Orthodoxy, and RCism would have been flooded with exiting members. And none of us were.

Anyway, just some further thoughts, and, I hope, ones that are a little calmer and kinder.

9 posted on 03/10/2005 12:42:03 PM PST by Agrarian
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