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Thank-you for validating every point I made with your vitriolic attack on me.

You told me how you see me, as proud and imprudent.

You've indicated that you have no intention of responding to arguments made by Traditional Catholics to defend your position, only that these arguments should not be made based on your misguided understanding of what is appropriate conduct of a Catholic lay person.

And, you've made wholesale mischaracterizations of the arguments put forth by Traditional Catholics.

I'm fairly certain that this thread will be shut down shortly given the direction it is going in, which is really the object of the game isn't it, to shut down all debate on the subject. Good job.

Of course the neos not going to respond. That would require actual reasoned argument.

They only rely on invented doctrines and a re-ordering of the virtues. With Obedience (true or false, it doesn't matter) being on top above Justice and Charity.

But hey, That's what the new religion is all about.

Here's the problem with the new church...NEW CHURCH. I'm not Catholic, and I'm not going to pretend that I know a whole lot about Catholic, traditional or not, beliefs. I do know that I believe in the bible. My argument is simple, if the Churches of today were more concerned about winning people over to the Lord rather than the amount of people who attend the service's to bulge their wallets, then these arguments wouldn't be needed.
This is obviously redundant, considering the church has been clowded by greed and personal desire all the way back to Jesus himself. So I stand on Utopian beliefs, that maybe religion will get back to the good book itself, rather than men trying to rule his fellow brother. As far as the Pope goes, I'm not Catholic, he is a good man, old, but a good man. However, I don't believe that you should have to go through another human being to speak with out Lord and Savior. To repent for your sins is between you and God. This is New testament. But everyone has their beliefs, be they right or wrong. I don't feel that I'm either. I just pray that when my time comes I will have lived the way the Lord wanted me to live, and followed the guidelines given to us through the bible. This is where all our arguments and answers are laid to rest.
I pray for all of us.