[murphE]

Watch now, as many come to defend his "orthodoxy". "He's not really heterodox" they will say, "just misunderstood."

[AlbionGirl]

Maybe this guy is all about 'nuance'. Maybe I'm wrong, and he's not a big vacillator, but the mere fact that I'm having to weigh this creates a smoke I can't see through.

[marshmallow]

Isn't it just a major downer when the neat little cyberworld pigeon holes which us keyboard jockeys build for people, don't measure up to reality?

Of course, the error is never ours. Unthinkable.

Here in our little world of keystrokes, we know exactly and infallibly what the Church needs. If only it would do just as we say. All would be well.

"Damn thee to hell, Kasper. I have already condemned thee. Why dost thou still push thy head out of the pit?"

[BlackElk]

MurphE: Kaspar is REALLY heterodox and he is NOT orthodox and he is NOT misunderstood. This will remain true unless and until proven otherwise by Kaspar and by history. I shall not hold my breath.

There is plenty of heterodoxy and anti-orthodoxy to go around. Some folks pretend that they are Catholic while rejecting the legitimacy of Novus Ordo ordinations, the legitimacy of the Novus Ordo Mass, the applicability of papal rulings adjudging their movement schismatic and their ringleaders excommunicated and who relentlessly attack pope and papacy, acting as though they and not JP II are the judges of orthodoxy. They are NOT misuderstood either. Just enemies of the Chrch who attack from a different direction than do Kaspar and Daneels and Mahoney and others.

The Barque of Peter remains the safe refuge of those who are actually Catholic.

[dangus]

I sure ain't gonna defend Kasper. Don't see anyone else rushing to his defense. Some FReepers interpret any ambiguity in any one comment as a deliberate plot to undermine truth, even when there is no ambiguity in other statements by the same person. Other FReepers are more satisfied that the truth has been stated, even if not always so clearly. But few tolerate the way the likes of Kasper hem just close enough to orthodoxy to not be tried as a heretic.

[dangus]

I sure ain't gonna defend Kasper. Don't see anyone else rushing to his defense. Some FReepers interpret any ambiguity in any one comment as a deliberate plot to undermine truth, even when there is no ambiguity in other statements by the same person. Other FReepers are more satisfied that the truth has been stated, even if not always so clearly. But few tolerate the way the likes of Kasper hem just close enough to orthodoxy to not be tried as a heretic by a lenient and collegial Vatican.