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To: viaveritasvita

Church attendance collapsed within five years of the institution of the New Mass, dropping from 80%+ to somewhere around 22%. This was before the scandals broke. But the scandals themselves, together with a general loosening of morals, coincided with the Vatican Council.


70 posted on 03/07/2005 12:52:21 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio

Your assertion that three out of four Catholics quit attending church is simply false.

80%+ of able-bodied, prime-of-their-life Catholics attended Church, perhaps. Few received Eucharist regularly however. Today, according to surveys, about 40% of all Catholics, including the aged and infirmed, attend mass. The surveys I've seen show the drop-off at stopping about the mid-80's, until the priest scandals. THen the # dropped to 27%, before rebounding back to over 40%.

Personally I suspect this is the greatest reason for the drop-off that did occur: It used to be that the "unworthy" attended mass weekly, and skipped just communion. But so did most everyone else. Then, after Vatican 2 made communion more acceptable (less fasting, more masses scheduled, big push on everyone should receive who can, etc.), those who did not feel worthy felt singled out. The expectation was that if you showed up, you should receive communion, and if you couldn't, then you were an outcast.

Then came Humanae Vita (sp?), and millions of people who had expected that the Church's position against the birth control pill was obsolete, were stunned to find that the church considered them to be in mortal sin.


76 posted on 03/07/2005 1:03:17 PM PST by dangus
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To: ultima ratio

>> But the scandals themselves, together with a general loosening of morals, coincided with the Vatican Council. <<

That is factually false. The scandals were underway by 1963.


78 posted on 03/07/2005 1:04:40 PM PST by dangus
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To: ultima ratio; ninenot

From 80% to 22% huh? That's some imagination you have there. No wonder you have embraced the SSPX schism. The late great Archbishop Fulton Sheen once said: "If I believed what the Church's enemies believed, I would not be a Catholic either." Luther, Jack Chick, Marcel, whoever!


97 posted on 03/07/2005 2:36:50 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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