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To: pharmamom; AlbionGirl
I think you've got it about right, pharmamom; anger, save perhaps in dealing with demons as the monk Evagrius points out, only clouds and diminishes the soul. A level of detachment from the self, what some Fathers call "apathia" is to be attained and then correction and didactic punishment can be attended to without the dangers, physical and spiritual of real anger. On the other hand, in Orthodoxy there is no concept of a "just war". War may be inevitable, it may be thrust upon us and we certainly practice war against greater evils, but the Fathers say that war can never be "just"in any true sense of the word. At least in part, this concept arises from a very common thread among the Desert Fathers which hold that anger towards others is always wrong. For example, +Nilus of Mt Sinai advised his monks:

"When you pray as you ought, there may come into your mind things about which it seems right to be angry with your brother. There is absolutely no anger against your brother which could be justified. If you look, you will find that the question can be settled quite well without anger. Therefore do your best not to be moved to anger."

9 posted on 03/04/2005 11:07:51 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis
On the other hand, in Orthodoxy there is no concept of a "just war".

I think you may be somewhat misunderstanding what we mean by "just" in this context. It is not to say that the "just war" is a positive good, but rather a one in which we may engage without necessarily sinning. It is as opposed to an "unjust war", which is inherently sinful. It is for this reason Pope John Paul II has always preached against warfare: any resort to war, in order to settle some difference between nations, necessarily means that other, less destructive means, have failed. "Just" war is a last resort, not a first option, and is necessarily something that (as you say) is "inevitable ... thrust upon us and .. certainly practice[d] war against greater evils".

11 posted on 03/04/2005 11:30:01 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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