Posted on 02/26/2005 6:48:19 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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Interesting, thanks. I do believe the tsunami was the beginning of the worldwide chastisement.
And Russia's direct involvement in nuclear proliferation in the Middle East adds to the evidence... Now we'll await the pathway from China to the Middle East and see what transpires.
So do I. Even if thousands of similar tsunamis have occurred in the past (and they have), I believe this particular one is beginning of the chastisement (or a warning thereof).
There is a sort of a false peace in the world today. Yes, small arms and roadside bombs here and there (and I pray for the victims), but little in the way of major combat. Unlike many here, I don't believe that any "peace" in Iraq or the rest of the Mideast will be lasting.
As the author suggests, there is no shortage of threats in the world, and I believe that major powers are plotting their moves against the United States. When the surprise attack occurs, I believe that western intelligence and politicians will be in the dark, although there will be those who will have warned to unhearing ears.
FWIW, I believe that we will be hearing much more about the avian flu (H5N1). Many in the professional epidemiological world are practically in a panic, as was the Director of the CDC (for one day). Someone apparently got to her and caused her to retract or modify much of what she had said the previous day. I believe the SARS outbreak was a warning of what might occur on a worldwide scale.
"Later, I learned that my contact was giving distorted information about the Church in Russia to Sister Lucy, assuring her that the Schismatics were converting and the country was experiencing a veritable springtime of faith, with the people showing a great interest in the Fatima message..."
"...The second was Our Ladys warning that there would be another war. If man did not convert, Russia would spread its errors of Communism throughout the world and the world would suffer a great chastisement."
It's always assumed that atheistic Communism represents the errors. At least, that's what I've always heard, but it always did seem so incomplete a thought. Do we know this, at least, from Our Lady... did she specifically say this? I'm thinking more in terms lately of it being more to do with the Eastern and Western churches; about the schismatics, about unity. Was it supposed to be more about healing the thousand year old Great Schism?
We've been fighting off Communism with the weapon of Americanism. Both being, in my estimation, merely two wings of the same bird, really.
What if we had been more careful to perceive what the essence of the errors really consisted of. Atheistic Communism: the error, or, only the effect of a cause? If so, what's the primary cause?
There must be some way to tie a lot of this together. The fall of the last monarchy, and in its wake, the use of one kind of social error to combat another. Politically and socially, that is. But then there's the absurdity of a failed ecumenism to address the Schism. Same kind of thing. The timing is interesting as well.
Now consider who we are. America was founded upon principles related to step one. Step one is instrinsic to the principles. The second step, we own that ballpark.
So how did we seek to combat step three? With steps one and two, of course: by making the world safe for what? For our American ideals.
Then take a very careful look at our ideals, and where the Saint says they lead us. We combat error with error.
So it seems that in identifying the error as Atheistic Communism of Russia, something's lacking for a complete view. The errors must be something deeper than just that.
Just some random ramblings in the middle of the night. Any thoughts?
The only thought that keeps going through my head when these issues come up is, "Keep your soul clean."
We can only do limited work in the way of evangelizing to mitigate the chastisements if they come upon us. And individually or even collectively it will take divine intervention to short circuit this globalist juggernaut that I believe is a trap set to enslave the whole human race, if not directly it will enslave them in error and sin.
So, we should all watch "The Passion of the Christ" again and again and prepare ourselves to follow the Way of the Cross as the Holy Father St. Pius X instructed us to.
I would speculate that the "error" that we are dealing with is the common error between the East and the West. Both Communism and the Capitalist system are rooted in one thing, "Materialism."
They both deny morality in one way or another. The Communist denies individual morality, the Capitalist collective morality.
The same principle that St. Pius X wrote about: the conservative force and the progressive force is at work, and not only on the individual and national level. That tension exists among the nation states and the superpowers. America is currently operating as the "Progressive force" and China and the Middle East are "Conservative Forces".
There will be an intersection of these forces in the future and it will probably result in wars and calamities before consolidating into one force of liberalism. Just a guess on my part, but that will be when the Anti-Christ shows up.
The whole thing will have been orchestrated by that evil angelic intelligence and his willing and unwilling dupes will have handed millions over to him.
Fatima's message was the same of the gospel:
Pray (in this case, the rosary, the prayer of poor illiterates)
Meditate on the gospels (in Fatima, the "mysteries" of the rosary, which are the important part of the gospels)
And do the duties of your daily life.
Fatima, like most Saintly people, believe the modern world is going against God's will and this leads to war and chastisement, but prayer can "stand in the gap" and encourage God's mercy on sinners and even stop wars.
The fall of the iron curtain is probably the result of prayers and intercssions by millions of unknown Christians.
And personally, I believe we were "sent" Bush as president because a million American men prayed and repented for our country in a public way at the Promisekeeper's ralley in Washington...imagine the Christian persecution that would have slowly increased if Gore had been president...
Whatever else, I don't find it surprising at all that we wouldn't know anything about Sister Lucia's health or anything else. As important a person as she is, she was a cloistered Carmelite nun, and would not have wished to have the attention at all. She spent her time praying, as Our Lady told her, and that was infitely more valuable than anything else she could have done. Don't forget what St. Pope Pius X said about the passive virtues.
Also don't forget St. Bernadette Soubirous went through a prolonged and painful illness in a convent, living as anonymously as any of the other sisters there, despite the fact she known throughout the world.
My question, naturally then, is what about this book called Calls from the Message of Fatima, which is in at least one place advertised as follows:
"Sister Lucia, the famous Fatima visionary. Finding herself flooded with constant questions and feeling it was beyond her to reply to each questioner, the cloistered nun asked the Holy Spirit for permission to write a text that would reply in general to the many questions -- and here it is! This is in effect a long letter to all of us, written entirely by Sister Lucia for you and me, based on Scriptural passages."
I'm nothing more than curious.
Have any of you read this book, and if so, your thoughts please.
It wouldn't have mattered much. The principle behind either choice was the same.
But since when were Christians supposed to avoid persecution anyways?
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