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To: Ryan Bailey
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The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

This is nonseense. The Olivetan congregation was one among many reform Benedictine groups of the later Middle Ages, founded in Italy. It takes its name from "Monte Oliveto." Dozens of Benedictine groupings have been founded since. The Olivetans no more = Benedictines than the Kansas City Chiefs = professional football or the Church of Sweden = Protestants. Congregations of Benedictine monasteries(The Swiss Congregation, the Bavarian Congregation, the Subiaco Congregation) themselves, of which the Olivetans are one of the earlier ones, only came along 1000 years after Benedict wrote his rule. Until the congregations emerged in the late Middle Ages, each Benedictine house was autonomous. The house of Cluny (founded 910) resembled the later congregation in some ways, but in fact was a single house with many dependent daughter-houses. In this light, the Olivetan congregation is a tiny drop on the ocean of Benedictine monasticism.

To identify the Malachy prophecy (itself a 17th-century forgery) and it's use of "Olive" with the Olivetan congregation, is mere word association.

To identify "Benedictine" with Olivetan is more mere word association nonsense. To then associate Benedict XVI with "Benedictine monks" in general--that's three absurd leaps by mere word association in a row.

Astrology, clarivoyants etc. all depend on leaps like this--if you try hard enough, you can connect just about anything with anything.

65 posted on 04/19/2005 11:33:03 AM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

The prophcy of Malachy will have to be stretched every which way but up to make it fit our new German Pope.

So much for prophets. They're right about half the time.


66 posted on 04/19/2005 12:15:02 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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