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To: donbosco74
I guess having a conversation with you is going to be pretty difficult, huh?

Yes, especially when you use language like this:

when you and others like you persist in their lies of calumny and hatred, you dig yourself deeper into the pit.

Try to refrain from insulting me by calling me a liar, and we can have a conversation.

It is a FACT that the number of people attending the TLM under the indult is less than 300,000, while a minimum 15 million Catholics attend the Novus Ordo each Sunday.

Statistically, you are simply wrong about Catholics flocking to the TLM. They're just not.

22 posted on 02/26/2005 1:25:22 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

"It is a FACT that the number of people attending the TLM under the indult is less than 300,000, while a minimum 15 million Catholics attend the Novus Ordo each Sunday."

It is also a fact that this Catholic and many others would attend an Indult Mass were one available within reasonable driving distance. At present we are looking at a seven hour plus round trip.


23 posted on 02/26/2005 2:04:26 PM PST by rogator
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To: sinkspur

Who said "indult"? Did I say "indult"? I know the "indult" which is acutually a lie in itself, because no "indult" is necessary for a priest to do what all the priests in history have done. The real "indult" should (properly) be for a priest to say the protestantized novus ordo, because it is the change, it is the deviation. It was never made mandatory by the pope, only illicitly by local bishops, for which they have no power to do. I did not say, nor did mean "indult."

When you go to a so-called indult, you are getting little of what you came for and a lot of what you came trying to avoid. You won't hear anything clearly critical of the rot that is being put out as "authority" from the chancery office, will you? You might want to avoid the chance that the communion hosts were leftover from novus ordo messes, but that's a given, because they USUALLY ARE. You will hear words from a priest who is very afraid of saying too much. I know several priests who have been so fed up with this living lie, that's right, living l-i-e, that they took their future by the horns and put it into God's hands, making a real leap of faith.

If anyone wants to join the debate, this is a hot topic, and there is now an ongoing exchange in the pages of the Remnant under the watch of Michael J. Matt. Anyone can weigh in...


28 posted on 02/26/2005 6:05:05 PM PST by donbosco74 (("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort))
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