To: Kolokotronis
pray the Divine Liturgy in part or nearly whole in English is, in my very Greek chauvinist mind, neither here nor thereThat actually is part of the Orthodox tradition. Orthodox Church has never had a holy language like the Latins, where all services were done in Latin, regardless if one damn person could understand it. Instead it was always done in the layman's tongue: why slavic churches do it either in old slavonic or directly in the locals' modern language. In America, Orthodox churches should do their services in English, since that is the layman's tongue and allows the people to understand what is going on. The Latins have suffered from their insistance on Latin, where the local peoples: aka Germans, English, etc, did not understand what was being said or taught and thus had less problem finding substitutes in the fiery preachers of the reformation and or believing any lies that were spread.
25 posted on
02/26/2005 10:49:53 AM PST by
jb6
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To: jb6
"That actually is part of the Orthodox tradition."
Oh, absolutely, but the fact of the matter is that until relatively recently, on account of the presence of an Orthodox diaspora here in America, the hierarchs of the various jurisdictions tended to be, quite literally, Ethnarchs and the Churches tended to be pieces of the various Old Countries for immigrant Orthodox. In much later years these parishes have been rather shamefully used by the Old Countries to advance certain secular policy interests. What we ended up with were Churches that had more to do with being Russian or Greek or Serbian or whatever than with being Orthodox Christians. Use of the old language was and is a way to keep things that way. But these are secular and ethnic concerns, philetism actually, rather than religious ones. My experience tells me that the move to English in the Liturgy has been the equivalent of opening wide the doors of the Church to the people of America.
By the way, I always thought that Greek was THE holy language. Its what God speaks (or so my yiayia told me)! :)
26 posted on
02/26/2005 11:43:52 AM PST by
Kolokotronis
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