[Desdemona]

It is almost beyond belief that self defined "good" catholics from the "progressive" as well as those from the opposite pole seem equally afflicted with an almost Biblical blindness and deafness that renders them seemingly incapable of perceiving or understanding.

What's very odd is that the "progressives" around here who are normally quite vocal are muted, in a way. Not one of those parishes is being this disruptive, nor have they in quite some time. They don't have boards, either. Just parish councils like the rest of us.

Something is very strange about all this. The south deanery closing/consolidation list came out today and frankly, the Catholics have moved out of the city. Monster churches are being built in the next counties south and west. It's a reality that's just not going down very easily.

[Torie]

I wonder what the end game is if St. Stanislaus hires priests not on the payroll of the St. Louis archdiocese, say retired priests or priests of some independent order. What happens then? That is the announced intention of the Board.