GENESIS VS. EVOLUTION

Way Of Life | February 21, 2005 | David Cloud

[John Locke]

"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truth is a most terrible thing."

- Hypatia of Alexandria. Of course, the Christians murdered her for saying so, but she was right.

[loboinok]

See post #5 I was responding to that post.

[RaceBannon]

LOL!

Sorry! I see it now!

(looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue...)

[Diego1618]

Sorry....doesn't wash. "Became" is an acceptable translation.
Most recent translations show this as a footnote....not wanting to show it as the preferred usage because it doesn't fit their theology. The Hebrew is "Hayah" minus the vowels and it means "became".
2 Peter 2:4- For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to Tartarus , putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgement.(Jude 6-And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home-these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgement on the Great Day.
The same word "Hayah" is also translated correctly in Genesis 19:26- But Lot's wife looked back and she "BECAME" a pillar of salt.

[Phsstpok]

Anger. Vitriol. Hate.

Those do NOT strike me as aspects of the RaceBannon I have encountered before.

If this is who you are, I'm very, very sorry.

I condemn those who have attacked RaceBannon on this thread without proper consideration.

I also reject the apparent vicious attacks on others beliefs inherent in the original post in this thread.

I prefer to think that this user ID has been hijacked.

Leave me with my delusions that RaceBannon is a true patriot as well as a generous soul, willing to allow others their point of view.

I will leave you with your delusions.

PAX

[RaceBannon]

What anger?

What vitrol?

What hate?

What in the world are you talking about??

[onedoug]

I recently really enjoyed, and highly recommend "The Science of God" by physicist Gerald Schroeder.

[RaceBannon]

To turn the tables, let's suppose that all that Science teaches about our Origins is correct.

That is where the error begins

Science does not teach that we evolved, evolution is only a person's interpretation of what is found in reality.

Science tells us that we find dead things buried in rock layers that were laid down by water. Christians say that is evidence of the Flood. Evolutionists tell us it happened by chance over time.

From science we KNOW that if an animal died, it will not sit there waiting to be buried by sedimentary material to eventually become a fossil.

That can be empirically tested. Buy a cow, take it in your back yard, and shoot it.

Tell me if it becomes a fossil.

Obviously, it wont.

BUT, we do find fossils of fish, fish that didnt die and float to the top and be eaten by the billions of organisms that are in the seas that would have digested that fish before it ever settled down to the bottom to be buried under massive amounts of sediment long enough and fast enough to prevent biological decay and then allow for fossilization.

We can see that NOW, just catch a fish, keep it out of water long enough to die, then throw it back.

Does it float? (yes, most likely)

If it sinks, will it be covered by sediment fast enough to prevent the molecular decay that CANNOT be allowed to happen to then allow for fossilization to happen over the course of a thousand years?

Yet, within the fossil record, we see fossils of fish that are in the process of swallowing other fish, fish fossils of fish that are eating other fish! Can that just sit there and wait for years of sediment to cover it to then allow for the leeching of rock like matter into the bones and scales of the fish to form a fossil? The obvious answwer is that the fish were buried in a cataclysm, and Noah's flood is the more likely answer, for we find not only fish in this state, but we find other animals in bunches of dead animals all in one pile, all fossilized. Science found them, it is up to the interpreter to say whether it is evolution or Creation that got them there. All SCIENCE proved is dead things were found buried in rock layers that were laid down by water.

It does not take a rocket scientists to see these things about evolution cannot be explained by anyone in any time period because the simplest of events that have to take place are impossible to be proven. But, the events of the Flood of Noah, and of God's word, they are written and recorded and are observable because people saw it happen, (except for Genesis 1-3) , recorded it happening, and leave that written record for others to read later.

Consider all the recorded events of history of Israel. Did they happen? Sure they did, and more than the Bible has proved that, in fact, the archeology expeditions of the 1800's were funded to examine the ancient buildings and towns mentioned in the Bible, some forgotten but FOUND because someone picked up a Bible and looked where the Bible said it was.

Ancient Assyrian obelisks mention Hebrew names and battle campaigns of the Old Testament, and the Assyrians did NOT believe the Bible, but their written historical records proved it correct.

[RaceBannon]

I'd love to send you a video I took, I was in London in 1991, in the British Museum, I found a book called THE BIBLE IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM, and I was so fascinated, I spent one entire day with my video camera taking video of the displays that were in the book.

Mush of it was similar artifacts that were mentioned in the Bible, proving these types of things existed, but SOME were actual names mentioned in the Bible, and entire walls from Akkeda? (Assyria) showing the siege of Lachish:

(2 Ki 18:13 KJV) Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did Sennacherib king of Assyria come up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them.

(2 Ki 18:14 KJV) And Hezekiah king of Judah sent to the king of Assyria to Lachish, saying, I have offended; return from me: that which thou puttest on me will I bear. And the king of Assyria appointed unto Hezekiah king of Judah three hundred talents of silver and thirty talents of gold.

(2 Ki 18:15 KJV) And Hezekiah gave him all the silver that was found in the house of the LORD, and in the treasures of the king's house.

(2 Ki 18:16 KJV) At that time did Hezekiah cut off the gold from the doors of the temple of the LORD, and from the pillars which Hezekiah king of Judah had overlaid, and gave it to the king of Assyria.

(2 Chr 32:9 KJV) After this did Sennacherib king of Assyria send his servants to Jerusalem, (but he himself laid siege against Lachish, and all his power with him,) unto Hezekiah king of Judah, and unto all Judah that were at Jerusalem, saying, (2 Chr 32:10 KJV) Thus saith Sennacherib king of Assyria, Whereon do ye trust, that ye abide in the siege in Jerusalem?

There is also an obelisk of what is supposed to be Hezekiah bowing down to Sennacherib, plainly seen, carved out, it is really cool to see it, I have it on video.

[loboinok]

I see you have been passing that glue around. ;^)