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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Arguss

The desire to think some legal loophole would have to be found in order to effect any kind of change is a good-natured and optimistic one, for which I do not fault you. At the same time, reminding you to take a second look at posting #26, I would also like to bring this home in a practical manner.

They said for years there would be no altar girls, and that the Pope is really opposed to this innovation. They said for years that there will not be communion in the hand and the Pope never gives it that way and that he will not tolerate it at Papal Masses. They said for years the Pope will put an end to these and other abuses.

The confident proclamations came like a steady stream from apparently well-meaning Catholics who want to believe that everything is going to be okay. So what? Now we have altar girls serving Papal masses, the Pope is photographed distributing communion in the hand, and a myriad of other abuses proliferate. What happened? Do as I say not as I do? Phenomenology excuses self-contradiction? What's verbotten one day is status-quo the next?

I tell you it's a waste of time to second guess the legalities. Don't bother trying to figure out how they will pull it off, because it doesn't matter! IT DOESN'T MATTER! They will pull it off because these men are the ones who believe THEY MAKE THE RULES. They got one innovation after another, and this one will not stop them. They will have their normalization of homosexual priests, just wait and see. Mahony has already accomplished it here in L.A., and where is the reprimand?? WHO IS CALLING HIM TO TASK FOR HIS CRIME AGAINST EVERYTHING HOLY?? Answer: nobody. Why? because it is the new norm. That's why. The Vatican can talk talk talk until the cows come home but until there are real sanctions and consequences, until heads roll, ultil Mahony and his ilk are locked up for life in a monastery to do penance for their crimes NOTHING WILL CHANGE. The crime will become the norm. Mark my words.

It will take an ACT OF GOD to put a stop to this insanity. And that is exactly why the Pope and bishops must consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, because only she can help us now. And only by that means has she promised to intercede, because it is God's will.

I'm getting tired saying this over and over. Maybe some other time...

Sometimes I feel like I'm watching the Titanic sink, and can see people arguing over how to arrange the deck furniture. Get over it. GET OVER IT! At this rate, JPII's so-called infallible prohibition against women's ordination will be transgressed in this Pope's lifetime and he will not lift a finger against it.

And perhaps this question of homosexual ordination will be the lynchpin. If the radical, militant homosexuals running the back office in Rome can pull this one off soon, nobody will be too shocked to see women being ordained.

Mark my words.


45 posted on 02/22/2005 8:43:48 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: donbosco74
"Don't bother trying to figure out how they will pull it off, because it doesn't matter! IT DOESN'T MATTER! They will pull it off because these men are the ones who believe THEY MAKE THE RULES."

So what you are saying is that the article you posted doesn't outline at all how this new docment will lead to more homosexuals. The author wrote 4,000 words on his gut feeling? His line of reasoning was "I know the doc says no homosexuals but I think they are liars so I will rake the muck."

And what was your point in posting a partial article that people can't read for themselves? Kind of leaves the rest of us at a disadvantage.

49 posted on 02/23/2005 6:06:37 AM PST by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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