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To: rudyudy
That means they were wrong. Not the institution of marriage.

And may I ask which churches? That may have some bearing.

7 posted on 02/20/2005 5:42:06 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

In both cases they would be considered bible believing, born again, very, very conservative churches. I won't mention the denominations.


10 posted on 02/20/2005 6:14:33 PM PST by rudyudy
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To: onedoug
That means they were wrong. Not the institution of marriage.

So if a married minister commits sexual sin, you blame the minister, but if a celibate priest commits sexual sin, you blame the celibate priesthood?

Let's get real, here. Sin is sin; you can't excuse one by saying that celibacy is the culprit while not excusing the other because marriage isn't.

Maybe if our (I'm Catholic) bishops chased away the homosexuals from the seminaries and religious orders, instead of chasing away the orthodox, faithful Catholic men who actually want to be holy and reverent priests, we wouldn't have this problem.

I can name several young men I know who would make fine priests, but have told me, "Never, in this diocese." Why? Because our former bishop persecuted and marginalized the orthodox, while celebrating the heterodox and questionable. The good men are chased off, while one of his so-called "vocations" publicly supported John Kerry for president, including contributing the maximum amount of money to the pseudo-Catholic's campaign.

"I sense an enemy's hand in this," according to the parable. The problem is not celibacy, the problem is that some of our bishops are doing everything they can to destroy the Catholic priesthood.

13 posted on 02/21/2005 8:17:50 AM PST by Campion
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