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To: Gerard.P
Your construction of "non-SSPX" and this imposed triumphalism that you are attributing to the SSPX is a pure fabrication on your part.

I don't care what Williamson says and I don't care what you say. It's just so much chin music.

I look at actions.

When you act in a manner which defies the Pope and which subborns his ministry to your own personal judgement as to what constitutes Catholicism, that is triumphalism.

Unless I have completely misread 2-3 years worth of posts on this forum, then my original comment stands and I will restate it.

It is the thesis of a significant number of posters here (including you) that true Catholicism is found only, within the confines of SSPX. Further, this will become clear to all when the Church united to the Pope further deteriorates in membership and practice to the point where only SSPX is left standing as the bastion of the true faith.

Don't jerk me around with all this "you're making it up" garbage.

I've read plenty of Williamson's opinions, by the way. Are you on board with him when he says the Japanese were not the ones behind Pearl Harbor and 9/11 was not the work of al-Qaeda? According to your bishop, the government knows who did these things but won't tell us.

Just as a public service for the lurkers here, so we know exactly how tight that tin-foil is wrapped around your noggin.

54 posted on 02/15/2005 10:05:31 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I believe it was you who brought up the subject of the SSPX - which is grossly off topic. We are not discussing this here. But it would seem to be a great way to destroy a thread.

What we are talking about on this thread is Third Secret of Fatima - and the text released by the Vatican in 2000, which purported to be so.


55 posted on 02/15/2005 10:15:40 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: marshmallow
Your construction of "non-SSPX" and this imposed triumphalism that you are attributing to the SSPX is a pure fabrication on your part.

I don't care what Williamson says and I don't care what you say.

Obviously. You just want to trumpet your fabrications without challenge. Truth has very little room in your little world. I suppose if you are attacking the SSPX you'll never try to quote a member of the society in context.

I look at actions.

No. You selectively look at actions. The ones you like. The others (kissing the koran, papal masses where the sacred species is treated improperly etc. absolutely ridiculous political statements and social statements coming from the Vatican..) you dip your head into a hole in the ground instead of dealing with.

When you act in a manner which defies the Pope and which subborns his ministry to your own personal judgement as to what constitutes Catholicism, that is triumphalism.

Now THAT is chin music. What about when the Pope acts in a manner with subborns the Church? Or, do you somehow want to invent a new doctrine that prevents this?

The last time I checked Ecumenism and its bitter fruits were not part of the Deposit of Faith.

Unless I have completely misread 2-3 years worth of posts on this forum, then my original comment stands and I will restate it.

I don't care what you've read. I don't care what other posters have said. I look at actions and you are stating untruths. Period.

It is the thesis of a significant number of posters here (including you) that true Catholicism is found only, within the confines of SSPX.

Prove it. Show me where I've said that Catholicism is found "only" within the SSPX. You won't. You can't. Game, Set, Match. You lie.

Further, this will become clear to all when the Church united to the Pope further deteriorates in membership and practice to the point where only SSPX is left standing as the bastion of the true faith.

As I stated and you completely ignored, that is not the opinion of the SSPX that is the opinion of Paul VI, and Ratzinger among plenty of others not affiliated with the SSPX.

Don't jerk me around with all this "you're making it up" garbage.

I'm not jerking you around. I'm stating a fact.

I've read plenty of Williamson's opinions, by the way. Are you on board with him when he says the Japanese were not the ones behind Pearl Harbor and 9/11 was not the work of al-Qaeda? According to your bishop, the government knows who did these things but won't tell us.

You didn't read him correctly. He said that the Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor but they were provoked into it. It didn't happen in a vacuum. This is not unreasonable with the blockade of Japan prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor. He also stated that 9/11 was the work of evil Arabs (al-Queada) who are in contention for domination with the evil Western powers who want to ultimately secularize every government in the World with Israel being the model in the Middle East. Just watch the news. Our media loves to paint white hats and black hats when in reality it is a series of black hats fighting each other and ultimately Christ. But you missed the main reason that Williamson stated, that it is the sinfulness of Man which has made God permit these wars and tragedies to happen. "This problem of the United States is politically insoluble, because it is a religious problem! The United States is caught between these two scourges of God, because it has turned away from God. God chastises those whom He loves (Heb. XII, 6), so that if God were not now chastising the United States, it would be the proof not that He loved, but that He did not love the United States! Let us be grateful that God is using Arab and Jew to chastise us! AND LET US THEREFORE, WITH NO THOUGHT OF HATING ARAB OR JEW, because they are NOT the real problem, TURN TO THE REAL PROBLEM, WHICH IS THE SINS BY WHICH WE OFFEND GOD. Let us take the Ten Commandments in reverse order, culminating in the first." and as I'm sure you know Bishop Williamson proceeds to remind us that the filthy media and our culture poisoning our youth and the bloody abortions procured cannot be pleasing to God.

Just as a public service for the lurkers here, so we know exactly how tight that tin-foil is wrapped around your noggin.

I see you don't have what it takes to actually get into the debate on facts. I'll take you on regarding Williamson any day of the week. But, I know how it goes, the nutjobs who think The U.S. Constitution and fashion of the day regarding political correctness is part of the Deposit of Faith will get more and more shrill the more Williamson's Catholicity and accuracy show forth and you'll attempt to have the thread pulled.

63 posted on 02/16/2005 7:39:11 AM PST by Gerard.P (If you've lost your faith, you don't know you've lost it. ---Fr. Malachi Martin R.I.P.)
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