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To: ndkos
If the Holy Father allows altar girls then we must obey him, whether the decision is right or wrong.

I see you're another adherant to "blind obedience".

If the pope told you to abort your unborn child, would you do so, whether he was "right or wrong"?

But conservative/liberalism, while very important in this day and age is not as important as the question of "are you in union with the Holy Father or are you in schism." From what I have read of you on this forum you have chosen the latter option.

Didn't take you long to go "ad hominem". Your handlers have prepped you well.

237 posted on 02/19/2005 9:19:27 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Land of the Irish

I believe in "blind obedience" only when I am commanded by God or his Vicar to do so. Really then it is not blind as you say.

The answer to your question of what I would do if the Pope asked me to go abort an unborn child is a pointless one, as first he would never tell me to do so as a teaching of the Church because then Christ would be a liar. Then you probably mean that he would tell me to do so but not as a teaching of the Church. My answer then would be no, I would not abort the unborn child, because this is a matter that is not up for debate (I don't know how to formally describe this, as I read it before but can't put it in words), and thus I can (and must) disobey his authority and still be obeying God.

Let me ask you a question then. Would you disobey the Pope by joining or associating with a schismatic sect (the SSPX) if there were no indult Masses in your area? If you answer "yes" you have answered your own question in #238.

No, I did not attack your argument by attacking you. I asked a new set of questions with the goal of attacking the SSPX. You have indicated in the past that you agree with them by posting many things from them on this forum.

I don't know what you mean by "my handlers." If you think that I am a modernist then you are mistaken because I don't agree with anyone who celebrates an illicit Mass or anything else like that. I will be attending an indult Mass tomorrow morning in fact.


239 posted on 02/19/2005 10:08:36 PM PST by ndkos
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