You're wrong, Stubborn. But, you're stubborn, so you will remain obstinate.
To imply that the Mass of Paul VI is somehow less of a Mass in terms of its effects and graces than the Tridentine Mass is, frankly, heretical.
IF, as you say, The Novus Ordo is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass then what is there to be wrong about?
To imply that the Mass of Paul VI is somehow less of a Mass in terms of its effects and graces than the Tridentine Mass is, frankly, heretical.
Your opinion is rooted in your lex credendi, which is naturally the result of the novus ordo, i.e. the new lex orandi. IOW, the Mass of Paul VI and all that it came along with contradict your statement.
Fr. Echert, from the EWTN forum doesn't agree with you sinkspur.
"Since cause and effect cannot be seen with the naked eye, and there remains, therefore, conjecture on the matter of cause, I believe it legitimate for Catholics to be able to debate the nature of the cause(s), which have produced the effects in the Church of the present time--many of which are documented. If all aspects of a council are precluded from any such discussion, on the assumption that all aspects of all councils are somehow sacrosanct and divinely inspired, then we do a disservice to the pursuit of truth and a remedy, in my opinion. There are ambiguities and omissions in, and false translations of, documents of the recent council which have been used and misused by certain elements within the Church, with devastating results. Similarly, things never envisioned or commented upon by the council have been carried out, in the name of the council—the radical changes to the Sacred Liturgy, for instance. This has now gone on for four decades; one wonders if this will continue for centuries. It will, if we label those who raise the question as unfaithful, or those who object as dissenters."
Father Echert