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To: sevry
You SEEM to be complaining that Sister Lucy never wrote this in her letter to Don Umberto Pasquale. Yet they cite "Quoted by L?Osservatore Romano in 1984," as well as Fr. Michel.

Not complaining, just stating the obvious impossibility of Our Lady ever telling Sister Lucy that the Rosary is, after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls. As such, it is obvious that it is not the *real* third secret at all, rather, it is a lie.

Do you expect that it would not be found in a particular issue of L?Osservatore Romano, or that they got it wrong - or even if I ask you to explain yourself - WOULD YOU? more the point - CAN YOU? What exactly is your complaint?

I have no complaint - I was done doing that some 35 years ago when the revolution was squeezing the faith out of the whole Church. These days, thanks to the revolution, people are too easily mis-lead by the likes of Fr. Gruner's half truths.

Do you believe that in the *real* third secret, Our Lady told Sister Lucy that the Eucharistic liturgy (novus ordo) was the best way for preserving the faith? - again, here is the snip: And since the Rosary is, after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls

222 posted on 02/19/2005 3:15:35 AM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: Stubborn

Excuse me but I had to comment on this. I do not know what your suggestion is that would qualify for being "after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls." Could you clarify that? Meaning, if you disagree so strongly that the Rosary qualifies, then you must have some other prayer, right? What you claim is "the obvious impossibility" is not so to me.

What "half truths" of this "Fr. Gruner" are you talking about? Do you have one or two real good examples?

The 3rd Secret was given in 1917, when there was no such thing as a Novus Ordo. If Our Lady refers to the Eucharistic liturgy in it, she would have to be talking about the Traditional Latin Mass (or equivalently one of the eastern Catholic rites then in existence -- note, the eastern rites have now started to follow the corruption of the Novus Ordo revolution, and so we have to distinguish between the eastern rites of 1917 and those of today).


226 posted on 02/19/2005 12:32:05 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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