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To: thor76
As the article indicates, one of the motivations for establishing the socalled permanent lay diaconate was to agitate against clerical celilbacy

The "article" is full of paranoia. The primary motivation in re-establishing the permanent diaconate was to recognize the true charism of the diaconate, as manifested in the early Church, but lost over the centuries. Subsuming the diaconate to a year in seminary as a passage to the priesthood denied the diaconate its proper role in the three major orders of diaconate, priesthood, and episcopate.

Paul VI was under no obligation to follow the recommendations of the Council, but he recognized the importance of this ministry. The permanent diaconate is the fastest-growing vocation in the Church today, and evidence that there is no shortage of men who wish to serve the Church, even undertaking the obligations of the diaconate.

Instead of trashing this ministry, you should be praising it. Why, I'll bet your diocese would even take you as a candidate.

32 posted on 02/11/2005 2:23:13 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

The permanent diaconte is a useless ministry. Most of what deacons can do can - and is - done by lay persons without benefit of the so-called "training" of a deacon.

I have only seen one deacon in all my years who actually was an exemplary role model, who also truly had and taught the Catholic faith. The others were just so much used kitty litter. Some of them are straight, single and sexually active, and some of them are gay and sexually active. Most of them are a disgrace, and grossly ignorant of the teachings of the church.

Paul VI was quite foolish to have put forth this program, as it has caused great confusion among the laity as to the role of the priest......with wannabe priests (deacons), plainclothes lesbian/wiccan nuns, and random lay persons cluttering up the sanctuary.....each taking nibbles of the proper role of the priest. And dimishing it.

Trash this so-called minstry? I dont need to: it is self-trashing.


34 posted on 02/11/2005 2:35:22 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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