Posted on 02/09/2005 3:55:12 AM PST by freepatriot32
ping
I'm lost.
Well, it's one theological view. There are, of course, many others, and that's just among folks INSIDE the Anglican commune. Now if you bring in the Baptists this is going to bust wide open.
My mom spoke to me at her funeral, and this is what she said: (Besides calling my brother in a law a jerk and what did I expect, he was always a jerk and would never change....), 'Nothing that happens here on earth matters. God forgives everything....' What a gift! We know God forgives everything, but somehow this gets lost in day to day problems. She told me she wasn't old and sick anymore, that she was happy and with family and friends and that I should sit on her grave and talk about her and have a really good time. It was one of the best days of my life. So unexpected. Wonderful.
God is bigger than organized religion. We all have to find our way to Him, but the path we take is up to us. And it isn't heaven if Dogs aren't there.
What, for heaven's sake, is this all about?
That wasn't Mom and it wasn't the truth. If true there was no need whatsoever for the death of Jesus.
Marking for later sermons from the holier than thou crowd.
Happy Birthday!
" We all have to find our way to Him, but the path we take is up to us."
Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Light. No man come to the Father except through me"
You are either sadly mistaken, have blindly believed a lie or are willingly spreading this lie in hopes to prevent someone, anyone,as many as you can, from accepting Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.
lol thanks
Psalms : 110
"My mom spoke to me at her funeral..."
My mother spoke to me after her death too. As you say, it was completely unexpected. She gave me a bit of motherly advice about something I was very worried about. What she said turned out to be true.
I have always believed in the after life, and that those gone before continue to watch over us. This experience with my mom is proof enough for me.
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"O God, through whose mercy the souls of the faithful are at rest"
The author treats the chaplain as if he said, "through whose mercy the soul of this faithful one is at rest." He did not, of course.
"Bless this grave... To bless means to make happy; "
Uh, no. One who is blessed is made happy, but they are not synonyms. That's how silly translations like "Wei Li's Happy Chicken Buffet" happen.
Bless:
To make holy by religious rite; sanctify.
To make the sign of the cross over so as to sanctify.
To invoke divine favor upon.
To honor as holy; glorify: Bless the Lord.
To confer well-being or prosperity on.
To endow, as with talent.
Blessing a grave would make the gravesite a source of comfort for those who mourn there.
"We must assume that he is appealing to the heretical high-church Anglican theory of baptismal regeneration"
I don't know how you want to twist scripture to call baptismal regeneration a heresy, if you call going near the subject appealing to it, the cleric appealed to it far less than Jesus did.
"Asked whether all soldiers were cleansed by water and therefore going to heaven,"
God ordains all things. Praying does not change his mind. Yet we in hope pray that he has already willed things to be. Thus, it is virtuous to pray in the reasonable expectation that the person was christian, even if we cannot be 100% sure. Just like we would pray for someone we knew had been Christian, without being 100% sure he had not apostasized.
Besides, there are no atheists in foxholes, remember? :^D
"Why do you not mention or pray in the name of Jesus Christ, which is the usual practice in Christian services? "
It is troublesome the way that Jesus Christ is hidden away from public rites... this I will agree with the post with.
"Read it. God wounds the enemies through force of arms, that is, soldiers act on God's behalf."
I know what it says but I do not see the connection between Psalms: 110 and "We all have to find our way to Him, but the path we take is up to us."
Well, if reported accurately, I guess that means the chaplain's answer to the question "What must I do to be saved?" would be "Get baptized, and become affiliated with a church."
In contrast to the Bible's answer.
Then he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" 31 And they said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." 32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family.
(Acts 16:30-33 -- preaching Christ, leading to saving faith, attested by baptism)
Dan
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None of us are fit to judge another's eternal state. Christ was crucified between two thieves, one of which He told, "This day you will be with me in paradise."
God is longsuffering and there is hope until the last breath. Only God can judge a man's thoughts. I believe many of us will be surprised at who is in Heaven and who isn't.
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