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To: Gerard.P; Mershon; gbcdoj; ultima ratio; thor76; murphE; Canticle_of_Deborah; pascendi

Their is nothing to discuss, really. The Seat is Empty Sede Vacante', JP II knows this just as John XXIII knew it whe he read the Third Secret Of Fatima. The Third Secret of Fatima which was to be read in 1960 remains closed -- and for a reason. The Heretics that hijacked Vatican II and brought the Heretic Modernisn and Socialism into the Catholic Church.

The Novus Ordo is Heresy, it goes against the Laws of the LORD plain and simple. No Language, even the greasy, sleasy French language cannot be used to interpret the Liturgy in any way to justify support of the Socialist/Communist agenda.

John Paul may be Pope, but Pope to who? Leader of what? The Papal Edicts were alwasy adhered to followed to the letter. Parishoners never had to question the practices of their Bishops or Priests before Vatican II or 1962. Now the Bishops question JPII's Edicts and decide for themselves if they will follow the Edicts from Rome. So JPII has been NAMED POPE, OK, Pope to who, Pope to What??

Their has not been a true and valid POPE since Pope Pius XII and there will not be a true and valid POPE until the Requsets of the Blessed Virgin are completed and The Third Secret of Fatima revealed. The SSPX is a small but important step, back to the Laws of God.

The Third Secret my friends will be the end of the Novus Ordo, the end of the Orthodox Rite, The Catholic Church will be ONE. Until then we suffer, because without the Love of God, Life has no meaning. Sede Vacante


243 posted on 02/08/2005 5:05:03 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Their has not been a true and valid POPE since Pope Pius XII and there will not be a true and valid POPE until the Requsets of the Blessed Virgin are completed and The Third Secret of Fatima revealed.

This is ecclesiastical Art Bell stuff, charlie. Really. Does this weirdness explain why you want to kill every Muslim on earth?

246 posted on 02/08/2005 5:16:25 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: 26lemoncharlie
The Papal Edicts were alwasy adhered to followed to the letter. Parishoners never had to question the practices of their Bishops or Priests before Vatican II or 1962.
Pius VI - Charitas - On the Civil Oath in France

The enemies of religion then realized correctly that their vicious plans would come to nothing unless they persuaded some bishop, either by appealing to his ambition or his stupidity, to take the oath to observe the Constitution and to undertake sacrilegious consecrations and so, to initiate a schism. Among those who have been overcome by this wicked deceit the first was Charles bishop of Autun, the greatest enthusiast for the Constitution; second was Jean-Joseph bishop of Lidda; third was Louis bishop of Orleans; fourth, Charles bishop of Viviers; fifth, Cardinal de Lomenie, Archbishop of Sens; and a few wretched pastors of lower rank ... From this series of sins schism is being introduced and spread in the kingdom of France, which is so dear to Us and has served religion so well; for the same reason pastors of first and second rank are being everywhere elected as the days go by, legitimate ministers are ejected from their positions, and ravening wolves are put in their place. We are certainly saddened by this sorrowful situation.

Their has not been a true and valid POPE since Pope Pius XII

Was Bl. John XXIII a heretic? How you could read a beautiful exposition of Catholic doctrine such as Ad Petri Cathedram and say such a thing is beyond me.

248 posted on 02/08/2005 5:22:33 PM PST by gbcdoj
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To: 26lemoncharlie
"Their is nothing to discuss, really. The Seat is Empty Sede Vacante', JP II knows this just as John XXIII knew it whe he read the Third Secret Of Fatima."

It isn't vacant.

"The Heretics that hijacked Vatican II and brought the Heretic Modernisn and Socialism into the Catholic Church."

That's true.

"The Novus Ordo is Heresy, it goes against the Laws of the LORD plain and simple."

It would be better to say that it facilitates heresy and heretics.

"John Paul may be Pope, but Pope to who? Leader of what?"

The Catholic Church.

"The Papal Edicts were alwasy adhered to followed to the letter. Parishoners never had to question the practices of their Bishops or Priests before Vatican II or 1962."

They should have, because modernists were well in place a century previous to 1962.

"Now the Bishops question JPII's Edicts and decide for themselves if they will follow the Edicts from Rome."

They'll pay in Hell if they don't repent.

"So JPII has been NAMED POPE, OK, Pope to who, Pope to What??"

The Catholic Church.

"Their has not been a true and valid POPE since Pope Pius XII and there will not be a true and valid POPE until the Requsets of the Blessed Virgin are completed and The Third Secret of Fatima revealed."

This is not the case.

"The SSPX is a small but important step, back to the Laws of God."

It can't be a step if it never moved in the first place.

"The Third Secret my friends will be the end of the Novus Ordo, the end of the Orthodox Rite, The Catholic Church will be ONE.

It will come to an end.

"Until then we suffer, because without the Love of God, Life has no meaning."

Right.

"Sede Vacante"

Wrong.

Collect yourself, and defend Holy Mother Church.

250 posted on 02/08/2005 6:31:23 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Relevant to what you said about JPII, Fr. Malachi MArtin very aptly described him in one of his chapter headings in "Keys of This Blood" as "Nobody's Pope".

That very phrase is pregnant with meaning.


253 posted on 02/08/2005 6:37:32 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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