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To: Alamo-Girl
I would ignore YEC's except that they intrude directly on work sometimes. I likewise prefer to ignore Raelians, PETA, Act-Up, Physicians for Social Responsibility, and others. Unfortunately YEC's also destroy the credibility of the rest of the conservative agenda (and I do support some parts thereof.)

It is difficult to talk about things about "tax reduction" or "social security reform" or "war on terror" when the reply is "but that is just supported by people who are anti-science." Many people I know feel that if someone is hostile to scientific reasoning, they cannot be trusted in other fields. (To be fair, PETA, Act-Up, the Raelians, etc. are likewise disliked by many people I talk with; most also voted against Gore because he was scientifically illiterate too.)
19 posted on 02/02/2005 11:58:12 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Thank you for your reply!

It is difficult to talk about things about "tax reduction" or "social security reform" or "war on terror" when the reply is "but that is just supported by people who are anti-science."

Both parties have ideologies - whether widely supported or belonging to a special interest - which are anathema to the other and will chop off communications from the get-go.

For instance, the single-issue pro-life voter would never consider a Democrat's idea on anything because the party is pro-choice. So I'm not surprised you would run into a brick wall wrt evolution and the YECs in the Republican ranks.

The bottom line (Jeepers, I'm going to sound like a liberal) - is tolerance. The Democrats preach it, they need to live it.

Actually, it is much easier for me to "preach" tolerance to my fellow Christians because Christ commands that we love God absolutely and every one else unconditionally (Matt 22). All of the laws and prophets hang from those two commands. If we don't get them right then nothing else matters. And unconditionally means where they are, as they are, without judging them personally.

27 posted on 02/02/2005 12:41:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Unfortunately YEC's also destroy the credibility of the rest of the conservative agenda (and I do support some parts thereof.) It is difficult to talk about things about "tax reduction" or "social security reform" or "war on terror" when the reply is "but that is just supported by people who are anti-science.

What possible threat to your lifestyle, our national security or industry does YEC pose -- unlike, say, global warming advocates who endorse non-conservatives?

Even science itself is not significantly endangered by YEC. Now, I can see a long-term concern that they take over our scientific institutions and arbitrarily and unscientifically discriminate against those who hold heretical views (ahem like what happened to that fellow at the Smithesonian) but even that is a real unlikelihood and even that may not be worse than the status quo considering some of the garbage that has been presented in the name of science -- alien abuctions taught at Harvard, global warming as noted, repressed memory just off the top of my head.

36 posted on 02/02/2005 5:16:15 PM PST by Tribune7
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