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On Comets: The Solar System is surrounded by the Oort cloud, billions of ice chunks.

Even Carl Sagan admitted that there is absolutely no evidence of the Oort cloud ("Comets", 1985). According to Stern and Weissman (Nature #409) evolutionary theories pretend that comets are left over planetary material. Earlier studies ignored collisions between comet nuclei and overly estimated this alleged "cloud" to be about 40 earths, but when collisions are factored in, amount to about one - no where near enough to explain the comets.

The liar shamelessly continued with even more outrageous departures from reality:

Your "evolution stoppers" are just the opposite; they cause rapid population change and explain why evolutionary bottlenecks help evolution occur in fits which are too quick to be observed over the geological record.

This is the Rube Goldberg version of evolution. No matter how contradictory the evidence, one can, after following a path similar to Billy's path in Bill Keane's "Family Circus", actually make water dry, black become white, and up to be down. Evolution is based on the assumption that processes remain the same over billions of years. The liar here now is taking evidence for a young earth and is ignoring the very foundational premise of evolution in order to say something totally absurd.

Unspecified fantasies and delusions about reptiles with feathers as absolute proof of intermediate stages of evolution snipped as it comes from a source known for nothing but lies. (What does one refute when no details or even a name of this alleged critter are provided?) What is especially comical is that the liar suggests that cold-blooded reptiles need feathers for insulation like warm blooded critters do. Yet another flunk-out in basic biology.

For some of the other things you cite, I have no idea what yyou are tking about.

Translation: My crack pipe is recently missing and I can't possibly come up with another psychedelic explanation.

Then the liar, who can confidently explain how circles are squares wonders:

If the Earth is only 7000 years old, how did fossils become embedded in rocks thousands of feet underground?

A global flood? Mud deposits form from sediments, rapidly burying live critters. As the flood recedes and the land dries the compacted mud hardens into rock? Evolutionist prefer to think that a critter dies, falls down and the body lays unmolested for thousands if not tens of thousands of years waiting for dust particles to land on it and bury it. While this time elapses, no predators or bacteria dare touch this carcass like they do now. Amazing Fact! According to evolutionists, a critter dies and never rots or even enters into the food chain! It just hangs out for millions of years waiting to be convered with dirt several thousand feet thick. (Of course no mechanism for how this dirt gets there... pointless details, I know)

Then the liar, exhausted of any more emotional energy, just declares by fiat: "The universe appears old, no way around it."

54 posted on 01/17/2005 4:59:34 PM PST by Reuben Hick
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To: Reuben Hick

The fact that you do not even use my name speaks volumes as to your character.

>>Even Carl Sagan admitted that there is absolutely no evidence of the Oort cloud ("Comets", 1985). <<

Uh, that was in 1985. That's downright silly to cite a 20-year old source to say that no evidence for something has been found. The first Oort object was found in 2003. However, much evidence had been collected previously.

>>Earlier studies ignored collisions between comet nuclei and overly estimated this alleged "cloud" to be about 40 earths, but when collisions are factored in, amount to about one - no where near enough to explain the comets.<<

Funny how you cite measurements for something which you claim doesn't exist.

>>Evolution is based on the assumption that processes remain the same over billions of years. <<

You've mistaken a laymen's connotation for scientific theory. Evolution does measure the rate of mutation, which is relatively constant. Nothing ever claimed that the rate of propagation of a mutation was constant. Darwin himself cited lizards and turtles he expected had been unchanged for unimaginable lengths of time, and compared it to the amazingly fast evolution of finches.

>>What is especially comical is that the liar suggests that cold-blooded reptiles need feathers for insulation like warm blooded critters do.<<

Uh, the point is that these reptiles had just evolved warm-bloodedness.

>>Mud deposits form from sediments, rapidly burying live critters. As the flood recedes and the land dries the compacted mud hardens into rock?<<

The rock which is made out of hardened mud is shale. It is actually a good source of fossils, but fossils also occur in many other typoes of rock, including metamorphic rock. No known natural process can create metamorphic rock quickly. And even shale is often found in places where mud would not accumulate, even if there had been a flood reaching the top of Mt. Everest.

>>According to evolutionists, a critter dies and never rots or even enters into the food chain! It just hangs out for millions of years waiting to be convered with dirt several thousand feet thick. (Of course no mechanism for how this dirt gets there... pointless details, I know)<<

Fossils, of course, are created by what doesn't rot and what isn't edible. How does the dirt get there? Well, that's why animals which live in or near rivers and shorelines get their fossils found most often: Fossilization does rely on silt deposition. Frankly, there is a relative lack of fossils from organisms which live in dry lands.

As for my "delusions and fantasies" about the discovery of feathered dinosaurs, I can only say this:

Sorry, I hadn't realized you've been living in a cave. The discovery of intermediate species between birds and reptiles caused quite a stir a few years ago.

Protoarchaeopteryx and Caudipteryx are two genera, discovered in 1998, which possessed feathers. Caudipteryx has forearms which are two short for flight, and lacks the developed sterna apon which flight muscles are attached. In short, it could not fly. (It's doubtful that Protoarchaeopteryx could fly, either.) There is a plain progression of the development of the feather (Yes! Intermediate Species!) from Sinosauropteryx to Caudipteryx and protoarcheaopteryx to archaeopteryx.

While these organisms were not likely the direct ancestors of modern birds, but rather survived until after the origin of true birds, they plainly show that various species of what must be considered reptiles were evolving along lines which led to modern birds. The following link (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/archaeopteryx/info.html) discusses the reptilian qualities of the archaeopteryx, and includes a link to a discussion on the discovery of protoarchaeopteryx.


57 posted on 01/17/2005 7:42:05 PM PST by dangus
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