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1 posted on 01/15/2005 3:57:44 PM PST by Catholic54321
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The problem comes in when it's made the State's religion and you will bow down to it, or else. That's the problem


2 posted on 01/15/2005 4:06:22 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Secret Agent Man (Step away,Ma'am, I've been labeled " a danger"))
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We believe the creation story tells of the states of man's regeneration ref: Arcana Coelestia #4

At this point in the Word, the style is story telling. At Genesis 12, the Word switches styles to historical fact where the internal sense there is the prophecy of Jesus Christ's nativity.

3 posted on 01/15/2005 4:19:41 PM PST by DaveMSmith
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Genesis, for instance, says the world was created in seven days. "There's no compelling reason for us to say a day is 24 hours," Vale said. "There's no reason to say God could not create the world through evolution."

He's wrong.

Look at the order of the Creation days, what came first in what order.

4 posted on 01/15/2005 4:24:37 PM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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I love science and I love Torah. No conflict whatsoever for me.


8 posted on 01/15/2005 5:51:19 PM PST by onedoug
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A very excellent article, except for this line:

"In the Catholic church, science and faith collided in the 17th century, when astronomers Johannes Kepler and Galileo upended the church's teaching that the Earth was the center of the universe. In the intervening 400 years, Catholic theologians and scientists have come to a truce."

What got Galileo in trouble, of course, was not his heliocentric model (thus also bringing his incorrect* theory into disrepute), but the way he used it to refute God's Creation of the world. I am ceaselessly baffled the way creationist Protestants use this as an example of the Catholic Church misbehaving, while they reject the notion that the Earth was created more than 34 generations before David.

(*incorrect in that Galileo rejected Johannes Kepler, instead insisting on circular orbits.)


10 posted on 01/15/2005 11:08:59 PM PST by dangus
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"Saaida Gaon said that if there is scientific evidence of something and it contradicts what Torah (Scripture) says, the Torah can't be wrong and science can't be wrong. I'm wrong. I'm interpreting it wrong,' the rabbi explained."

It's muddled thinking like this which has allowed Amoral relativists to set the agenda in this country. "I'm interpreting it wrong", lets everyone decide what to pick and choose. A straightforward reading has no significance. No wonder the Constitution has been so adulterated.

Genesis, for instance, says the world was created in seven days. "There's no compelling reason for us to say a day is 24 hours," Vale said. "There's no reason to say God could not create the world through evolution."

The fact that Genesis explains that God created a male and a female at the beginning (Adam & Eve) excludes the "evolution" interpretation.

It is comments like these that let Barbara Streisand's develope.

22 posted on 01/16/2005 11:03:07 AM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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Creating the Earth in 6 days, feeding 5,000 men (besides women and children) from one lad's lunch, water (h2o) into wine (water and numerous other elements), or turning dead flesh into living flesh, what is the difference? He either did all of it (I say yes), or he did none of it.

Here's a question for the Evos. If you believe you have a soul, how did it evolve?


26 posted on 01/16/2005 4:53:14 PM PST by Zuriel (God is the Rock)
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If you read the genesis account and take it at face value
it makes sense, you dont need to add anything or ignore anything its when dunderheads start adding and taking away
that people get lost!


65 posted on 01/17/2005 11:35:26 PM PST by claptrap (Recent republican votes leave me wondering if they are all just republicrats!)
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