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23 Ways To Identify A Faithful Parish
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| 01-14-05
| Brian Saint-Paul
Posted on 01/14/2005 4:41:09 PM PST by Salvation
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posted on
01/14/2005 4:41:10 PM PST
by
Salvation
To: Salvation
Remember to take the items together as he admonished!
23 Ways To Identify a Faithful Parish
1. There is at least one daily Mass. Obviously, if a parish shares a
pastor with other parishes, this may not always be possible. But
barring that, a parish needs to offer daily Mass.
2. Confession is offered for a set time... not just "by appointment
only." The absolute importance of that sacrament must not be
diminished.
3. The tabernacle is inside the main church in a prominent place.
It's always frustrating to have to play "Where's Jesus?" when you
walk into a parish for the first time. I recall once when visiting a
church I'd never been in before, I confusedly genuflected to
everything from the cantor to a statue of St. Therese before I
figured out where the tabernacle was.
4. The church has kneelers. Period.
5. The church doesn't have a sign in the front that describes itself
as a "Catholic Community." I know, this one seems petty at first, but
it tends to be true. If a parish has an objection to the word
"church," that's a good indication that a larger problem exists. And
if that parish magnifies the nonsense with a sign that says something
like, "An Open, Inclusive Community of Catholic Christians Who Care
and Share," stop, turn around, run.
6. As you enter the church, you see people in the pews in prayer or,
at least, reverent silence. If, on the other hand, it looks like
social time down at the bingo parlor, that's a bad sign.
7. The Mass is not intentionally altered through the use of
inclusive language.
8. The Mass is said according to the General Instruction of the
Roman Missal and the instructions of the local bishop. Improvisation
is great in jazz. Mass isn't jazz.
9. The gospel is not being read, nor the homily given, by someone
other than a priest or deacon.
10. Latin has pride of place in the Mass. It's right there in the
documents of the Second Vatican Council. That should be reflected in
the liturgy itself.
11. The bread for the Eucharist isn't made with added ingredients
not allowed by the Church. Honey, for example.
12. The liturgical music focuses on God, not the community. We are
there, after all, to worship Him, not ourselves. And there's never a
good reason to sing songs about bridges over troubled waters. You can
do that at home, Mr. Garfunkel.
13. Extraordinary ministers do not outnumber the parishioners.
There's a reason, after all, that we refer to them as EXTRAORDINARY
ministers. We only use them when there are too many people for the
priest and deacon to handle.
14. If you're able to find the mission statement of the parish (it's
often carried in the bulletin), make sure it says something about
fidelity to the Magisterium of the Church.
15. And while you're thumbing through the bulletin, see if there are
other good groups there, like the Knights of Columbus, Legion of
Mary, St. Vincent de Paul, and Holy Name Society. A faithful Bible
study group is also a great sign.
16. The parish offers some form of Eucharistic adoration.
17. The parish has an active Pro-Life ministry, as well as a
ministry that cares for the poor.
18. The priest wears his collar. Now, obviously, if you see your
local pastor jogging one morning, he's not going to be wearing his
clericals. But a priest should generally look the part. It's an
important witness to the secular world and a sign that he recognizes
the great value of his own vocation.
19. The pastor isn't afraid to preach on the tough issues: abortion,
divorce, contraception, cloning, etc. That's not to say that every
homily should cover those topics. But a priest should truly believe
the Church's teaching and defend them without pause.
20. The parish's marriage preparation program includes instruction
in Natural Family Planning (NFP). And if someone involved in the
program describes NFP as "the rhythm method," go immediately limp and
drop to the ground. With luck, he'll think you passed out and will
take you to the emergency room, far, far away from that parish.
21. The church has a vibrant religious education program for both
children and adults based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
You might also try to find out who's involved in the program and
where they received their own formation.
22. The church's Website doesn't link to dissident groups like Call
to Action, Voice of the Faithful, or Catholics for a Free Choice.
And finally...
23. If there's a literature rack in the church, look at the
publications the parish is carrying. Dissident magazines or
newspapers tend to go hand in hand with a dissident parish. On the
other hand, should you see a copy of Crisis in the rack, join that
parish. The pastor is clearly a man of great taste and refinement.
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posted on
01/14/2005 4:45:02 PM PST
by
Salvation
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posted on
01/14/2005 4:50:25 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Salvation
hmmm, my parish wins on at least 20 of these. I still don't like the assistant pastor though.
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posted on
01/14/2005 4:55:00 PM PST
by
Mercat
(I know my Redeemer lives)
To: Salvation
I don't want to get too off track but #3 about having the Tabernacle in a prominent place. My Church has the parking lot in the rear of the building. Consequently most people enter from a side door adjacent to the sanctuary. The Tabernacle also happens on that side of the sanctuary.
The vast majority of those walking past the tabernacle never look at it much less genuflect to it. I would like to have the Tabernacle moved to the opposite side of the sanctuary (where the choir area is currently). Our previous priest was not at all receptive to this but we happen to be getting a new priest this Sunday.
Do any of you think I am out of line on this?
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posted on
01/14/2005 5:01:36 PM PST
by
Straight Vermonter
(Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
To: Straight Vermonter
as long as the tabernacle is still in the sanctuary and clearly visible to the congregation when they are seated at Mass, I don't see why it would be a problem.
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posted on
01/14/2005 5:05:52 PM PST
by
sassbox
To: sassbox
The problem is convincing the Priest that there is a problem with the way things are currently.
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posted on
01/14/2005 5:13:20 PM PST
by
Straight Vermonter
(Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
To: Salvation
All 23 are good points...
THANKS FOR
THE PING!
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posted on
01/14/2005 5:26:13 PM PST
by
Smartass
(BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
To: Salvation
Excellent list. My parish, St. Paul's in Princeton NJ, scores at least 20 out of 23 (not sure about a couple of others). I live halfway between St. Paul's and a church at the other end of the scale, the Catholic Community of St. Charles Borromeo in Montgomery Township, which might reach a 5 on the scale if I give them the benefit of the doubt on a couple.
Some additional markers: 24) There is a rectory on church property where the pastor lives, and he is regularly seen around town on weekdays.
25) The church has a graveyard.
26) At Sunday morning masses, there are lots of kids and lots of Dads. If most of the kids there are with Mom only that's a bad sign.
27) There are stained-glass windows with recognizable pictures on them.
To: Salvation
Our priest not only wears a collar, but a cassock! Lord willing, we are going to be building a new church this summer, and the tabernacle will be behind the altar, in the center where everybody knows where it is, like it ought to be. And then, when we are no longer in this overcrowded chapel with movable chairs, we will have kneelers. We kneel on the floor now. But we do kneel!
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posted on
01/14/2005 6:25:13 PM PST
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
We kneel on the floor too! It's worth it just to be there!
Actually, I have taken to throwing my girl's coats on the floor when they have knee socks on. There is only so much one can ask of a seven and four year old with bony knees!
My "Church"!!!!
http://www.saintcyrils.org/
God Bless Fr. Ben and all our priests!
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posted on
01/14/2005 7:28:24 PM PST
by
netmilsmom
(God send you a Blessed 2005!)
To: sassbox
The tabernacle is inside the main church in a prominent place.This guy wants observance of the GIRM, then says this.
The GIRM allows for the tabernacle to placed in a chapel specifically designated for Eucharistic Prayer and adoration.
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posted on
01/14/2005 7:34:33 PM PST
by
sinkspur
("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
To: VeritatisSplendor
Some additional markers: 24) There is a rectory on church property where the pastor lives, and he is regularly seen around town on weekdays. Very few rectories are built today. That's just a fact of life.
25) The church has a graveyard.
Another anachronism. I can count on one hand the parishes in the North Texas area that have cemeteries associated with the parish church. Every single one of them are in rural areas. No urban area is going to approve zoning for a parish cemetery.
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posted on
01/14/2005 7:39:29 PM PST
by
sinkspur
("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
To: sinkspur
This guy wants observance of the GIRM, then says this.314. In accordance with the structure of each church and legitimate local customs, the Most Blessed Sacrament should be reserved in a tabernacle in a part of the church that is truly noble, prominent, readily visible, beautifully decorated, and suitable for prayer... 315. ... Consequently, it is preferable that the tabernacle be located, according to the judgment of the Diocesan Bishop,
a. Either in the sanctuary, apart from the altar of celebration, in a form and place more appropriate, not excluding on an old altar no longer used for celebration (cf. above, no. 303);
b. Or even in some chapel suitable for the faithful's private adoration and prayer and which is organically connected to the church and readily visible to the Christian faithful.
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posted on
01/14/2005 7:51:05 PM PST
by
gbcdoj
To: Salvation; dansangel
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posted on
01/15/2005 1:48:58 AM PST
by
.45MAN
("He" is with us.)
To: Salvation
Great post Salvation. My best friend came back to the Church after a 30 year visit in the land of Protestanism, she would have added to the list the Altar rail should be there and be used, but her second "sign" of a good parish is the kneelers! I think she will enjoy reading this list!
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posted on
01/15/2005 4:26:36 AM PST
by
Diva
To: sinkspur
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posted on
01/15/2005 5:22:49 AM PST
by
Diva
To: sinkspur
Very few rectories are built today. That's just a fact of life.There are a lot of so-called "facts of life."
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posted on
01/15/2005 5:26:06 AM PST
by
Diva
To: Diva
Thanks for your pea-sized contribution to the thread.
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posted on
01/15/2005 7:14:41 AM PST
by
sinkspur
("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
To: Salvation
My parish on the coast has twelve and a maybe. It clearly does not have the other ten.
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posted on
01/15/2005 8:03:05 AM PST
by
rogator
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