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This is an excerpt from John Ortberg's great book, "The Life You've Always Wanted." I was just re-reading this and it struck me again how easy it is to fall into that "us vs. them" mentality. Those people don't look like us, speak like us or worship like us, so they're not good people.

We often look only on the outward appearances; Christ cares about our inner vessel. To truly change, we have to change inside, and strive to become more like Him.

I just thought I'd put it here for discussion.

1 posted on 01/11/2005 9:09:33 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I agree with you. I joined a parish for it's traditional worship, but they are defining themselves only by this tradition and keep well away from the community. I have to be in the community since that's where the problems are that have to be dealt with day-to-day.

They seem to feel that only by isolating themselves, can they stay within these spiritual boundaries safely.

In all fairness, this is my impression, and while they truly are very good people, I'm used to working in ditches. I need the spiritual recharge the parish offers every week so that I can work in ditches.

Perhaps there is a need for some to remain within the boundaries set and offer the spiritual support for those who must go outside. There is probably room for both views in the Church.


2 posted on 01/11/2005 11:10:16 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thank you for these words. I have been praying for a way to verbally express this very idea, and lo and behold, God answed me through you and James Dunn.


4 posted on 01/11/2005 1:19:09 PM PST by colorcountry (If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you.......)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
"To truly change, we have to change inside, and strive to become more like Him."

As always the Bible has the answer: Romans 12 MSG: 2. Don't become so well-adjusted to your culture that you fit into it without even thinking. Instead, fix your attention on God. You'll be changed from the inside out. Readily recognize what he wants from you, and quickly respond to it. Unlike the culture around you, always dragging you down to its level of immaturity, God brings the best out of you, develops well-formed maturity in you.

5 posted on 01/11/2005 1:57:04 PM PST by Ff--150 (Name it--Claim it!)
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later


6 posted on 01/11/2005 2:09:09 PM PST by Tax-chick (Where am I? Who are all these kids, and why are they calling me Mom?)
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