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Vatican Council II: The Great New Approach
Angelus Press ^ | September 1998

Posted on 01/07/2005 7:59:56 PM PST by Land of the Irish

            

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September 1998 No. 28


Vatican Council II: The Great New Approach

 

 

A KIND OF MUTINY

It has been common knowledge for a long time that Pius XII (who died on Oct. 9, 1958) had already considered the possibility of summoning an ecumenical council. He was succeeded by John XXIII who, at the time, was regarded as a transitional pope (transitional from what to what?). Hardly three months after being elected, he announced his intention of convoking a council. The Curia and the Preparatory Commissions began their preparation and, after 18 months' work, presented 73 "schemas" which were either rejected or profoundly modified by the Council itself. The magazine La Croix, in a special issue in December, 1975, carried an interview with the Dominican Fr. Yves Congar (who was subsequently made a cardinal and was one of the Council's "experts"). In this article, Fr. Congar openly ridiculed these "schemas": "Seventy-three of them! Many of them reflected the theology of Pius XII and re-affirmed counter-reformation doctrine…" It could not be clearer: those who pulled the strings of the Council did not want to hear any talk either of "Catholic theology" (for there is no such thing as a personal theology of Pius XII) or of the council of Trent.

It was at that point that Pope John XXIII played a part which reminds one of the Sorcerer's Apprentice. The fact is that he was suddenly overtaken by events, giving the impression that he was no longer capable of governing. According to the reports of Fr. Congar (and others), the Pope "had something simple in mind, a kind of kerygmatic1 theology of the Faith, with a very detailed adaptation of Canon Law." In the event, this Council, which Pope John XXIII intended to last for two months and be completed by Christmas, continued for four years.

 
Fetal Feet

The Council had hardly begun, Fr. Congar tells us in the same interview, when "the bishops became more confident and very quickly, from October 1962, a certain number of bishops had simply decided to reject the doctrinal schemas which had already been prepared."

Carried along by this tidal wave, it is reported that Pope John XXIII said to several cardinals (from whom Fr. Congar got his information): "They didn't understand me." If this is so, it implies that he never regained control of the situation. Archbishop Lefebvre, in one of his first addresses on this subject (1969), referring to events which in many ways resembled a mutiny, said:

The whole drama of this situation is this...and I am not the only one to think so: from the very first days, the Council was under siege by the forces of progressivism….We were convinced that something abnormal was happening in the Council. It was scandalous how people were trying to turn the Council from its purpose by attacking the Roman Curia and, thereby, Rome herself and the successor of Peter.

 

THE "SPIRIT OF THE COUNCIL"

All the preceding councils, with the exception of the 4th (Chalcedon) and the 13th (Lyons), exhibit a rigorous pattern; the true doctrine is set forth and the opposite errors are condemned. This is carried out in a logical sequence which means that these two parts are inseparable: the second flows necessarily and logically from the first. By contrast, the acts of Vatican II are in the form of a series of addresses followed by recommendations, exhortations and vague suggestions, which are thus capable of being turned and applied in the particular sense desired by the Council's manipulators. To understand Vatican II, one must bear in mind that the particular approach adopted in each area discussed in its documents follows, in its turn, from a certain general approach which could be called the "Spirit of the Council"...astray and evasive like the spirit of modernity, twisting and slippery as an eel. Accordingly, if one manages to catch a thread, one must follow it and not let it go. Such a thread might be, for instance, the special supplement of La Croix of Dec. 1975, ten years after the Council, dedicated specifically to the "great new approach" of the Council. What we have here is a very interesting analysis of the conciliar documents, followed by an even more interesting interview with Fr. Congar who, in the meantime, had been raised to the dignity of the Cardinalate...which gives his words the weight and value of approval on the part of the Curia and the Sovereign Pontiff.

 

THE "MOST FUNDAMENTAL" TEXT

Fr. Congar, while he has no great opinion of the Declaration on Religious Liberty (Dignitatis Humanae) which he regards as a banal document with no other merit than having "contradicted the Syllabus," exalts the merits of the Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum) and regrets that this text did not have a greater impact.

We too admit that this document is of great importance but for reasons very different from those of Fr. Congar.

Passing over his laudatory commentaries on things he approves of, we shall concentrate on his statement that this constitution had "a considerable influence":

Although it is one of the shortest texts of the Council, this constitution is perhaps the most fundamental. By making Scripture the basis of preaching and theology, it has indicated the direction to be taken by all the other texts of the Council. It has presided over the liturgical reform by allowing Christians to have access to a wider choice of scriptural passages, both in the Mass and in the other sacraments. By refusing to ratify the theory of the two sources of revelation (Scripture and Tradition), it permitted a rapprochement with Protestants [who evidently admit only scripture, not tradition - Ed.] and had a considerable ecumenical influence. Fr. Congar was able to say that this constitution had put an end to the Counter-Reformation (i.e., the Council of Trent).

 

ALIGNMENT WITH LUTHERANISM

In other words, this conciliar constitution, which claims to be "dogmatic" and which has set the direction for all the other conciliar texts, which has presided over the liturgical reform, which has had a considerable ecumenical influence, intends to impose - as a dogma - the liquidation of the Tridentine Counter-Reformation. Thus it prescribes alignment with the Protestant Reformation, which the Council of Trent was (we must suppose) mistaken in opposing!

The new "pastoral" approach which the Council wanted to impose dogmatically (Dei Verbum is a "dogmatic constitution") is an invitation to ignore the Council of Trent, to act as if it no longer exists, as if it no longer has any validity. This is the return to the Protestant principle of "sola Scriptura" - Scripture alone is the source of revelation -which explains (and here Fr. Congar is right) the ecumenical strategy of the Council and the total reform of the liturgy, not only of the ritual but of the entire temporal cycle. This explains the pre-eminent place given to the "Liturgy of the Word" and to biblical texts (sola Scriptura), going hand-in-hand with the disappearance of the systematic teaching of religion according to a true Catechism (which is the Catechism of the Council of Trent, which formed the basis of the diocesan catechisms until 30 years ago). This explains the return to the Memorial of the Last Supper, which does not need a true altar but only a simple table, and the de-natured function of the priest, who no longer sacrifices but has become the president of the assembly.

An historic moment: January 25, 1959, in the Basilica of St. Paul-Outside-the-Walls,
Pope John XXIII announces that the Second Vatican Council will take place.

 

THE ECUMENICAL APPROACH

We are very well aware that the liturgical reform has been following scarcely camouflaged ecumenical objectives. The reformers, working together with well-known Protestants, played on the ambivalence of the new rite and, by means of this subterfuge, toyed with the idea that the reformed missal could be used by both Catholics and Protestants, together or separately.

This is intellectual dishonesty, which has created and maintained ambiguity in the hope of attracting Protestants. There is something in this which recalls Pascal's famous "wager," in the sense that the catholic invites the non-Catholic to have some experience of Catholic religious practice, by substituting habit for faith. This is why, by the way, certain philosophers consider Pascal a modernist before his time. The "experience" of Catholicism as a source of Faith is very close to modernist immanentism, if not identical with it.

It is permissible to see similarities between Pascal's "wager" and what is called" communio in sacris," which the Council's Decree on Ecumenism, far from excluding, considers positively as something to be "sometimes desirable" as a way of re-establishing Christian unity, a method to be used with " discernment," prudently, according to the judgment of episcopal authority such precautions are more in the nature of a pious hope.

"Communio in sacris" means participation by non-Catholics in the sacred action, i. e., the liturgy, not only in prayer. There is more than a simple analogy between this practice, which is growing more and more, and Pascal's "wager." The latter invites the non-believer, whom he would like to lead to the Faith by means of religious practice, to "wager" on the existence or non-existence of God and then, on the basis of belief in God's existence, to draw the practical consequences for his life. After this, Pascal indicates what he believes to be the "system" already followed by others:

Begin where they have begun, that is, by doing everything as if they were already believers, taking holy water, having Masses said, etc…. Naturally, that will bring you to believe and help you to become accustomed (Pensées, No.233).

The justified objection to this method is that it has substituted external gestures for the internal act of faith and has given the non-believer license to perform sacred acts in virtue of "experience," whereas these acts are reserved by the Church to those who have the Faith and the necessary purity of heart. Thus it has authorized the non-believer to perform sacrilegious and gravely culpable acts). Applied to Ecumenism, this process consists, neither more nor less, in inviting Protestants and Orthodox to "act as if they were Catholics," in Pascal's terms and to join in (communicatio) the Church's liturgy (in sacris) after having accommodated it in order to make it easier for them to take this step. In other words, the liturgical reformers have lowered the threshold of orthodoxy so that the invited guests should not stumble at the first step.

The practical result, which is growing more and more evident, is that there are no conversions, while among Catholics, the view is more and more widespread that all the Christian denominations and all the religions are of equal value. Thus, what people believe they can gain in the name of a misconceived charity, is lost at the level of Faith. Is this a coincidence? The effect is contained potentially in the cause, and the cause can be correctly identified in what La Croix called "the Council's great new approach."

 

THE " ANTHROPOLOGICAL " APPROACH

A second current which has determined the reflections and acts of the Council Fathers is the so-called Theological Anthropology or Anthropological Theology, which has transformed theology into sociology. The most authoritative witness to this approach is Pope Paul VI himself. On December 7, 1965, addressing the Council in its final session, he said:

Secular humanism has finally appeared in its terrible dimensions and, in a certain sense, has defied the Council. The religion of God Who becomes Man has confronted the religion of Man who becomes God! What was the result? A shock, a struggle, an anathema? It would have been possible but it did not happen….It is the discovery of human needs...that has absorbed the attention of our Synod……

Has all this, and everything we could say about the human value of the Council, perhaps deflected the spirit of the Church in the Council towards the anthropocentric thrust of modem culture? Not deflected, but given it an orientation. No one observing this predominant interest on the part of the Council, in human and temporal values, can deny that this interest is due to the pastoral character which the Council has chosen as its program. Such an observer would have to recognize that this same interest has never been separated from the most authentic religious interest, either by the charity which is its sole inspiration, or by the close link, constantly affirmed and promoted by the Council, between human and temporal values and those properly called spiritual, religious and eternal: we yield to man, to the earth, but we raise them up to the Kingdom of God (Homily, Dec. 7, 1965, Osservatore Romano, Dec. 8, 1965).

This is a confession of considerable weight: the Church has turned towards man.

Are we to understand that the Church has turned towards man by turning its back on God? Pope Paul VI says no; the hierarchy will certainly say no. But when, 30 years after the end of the Council, we see that the bishops and their clergy have become sociologists and, in fact, no longer teach religion, one can and must wonder if, after all the discussions and statements, this is not the reality of the situation: the Church, in the person of her ministers, has turned towards man by turning away from God.

The "Christian" philanthropy has infiltrated everywhere. It is even found in the Decree on Ecumenism, in the second chapter which deals with the practice of Ecumenism. Here we find a section devoted to "collaboration with our separated brethren," who are invited to join in the crusade "against the afflictions of our times, such as famine and natural disasters, illiteracy and poverty, lack of housing and the unequal distribution of wealth," all objectives within the competence of states and public authorities and not of the Church.

So there is no surprise when we see the Pope calling the heads of the principal world religions together at Assisi to promote peace by common prayer. Projects of this kind are perfectly in line with the approach set forth by the Council.

 

THE "SPIRIT OF INDEPENDENCE"

A third factor, which is more a mentality than a deliberate approach but which played its part at the Council and goes a long way towards explaining what happened "after the Council," is the spirit of independence - which is at the root of Protestantism.

The first manifestation of the spirit of rebellion was the mutiny of an important segment of the episcopate at the start of the Council Immediately thereafter the modernists took charge of the direction the Council was to take. Thanks to this initial revolt against authority, the bishops became infatuated with independence and "freedom." It was at this time that one impertinent individual, having said that after Vatican I, the Church had had some great Popes, like Leo XIII, Pius X, Pius XI and Pius XII, dared to add that, with the passage of time, the Roman Curia had become a perfectly effective...omnipotent...instrument of government and study...in other words, it had become tyrannical.

During the Council, Pope Paul VI seemed to share this blind opposition to supreme power.  In the interview already mentioned,  Fr. Congar gives this testimony:

When he (Pope Paul VI) intervened, he did so with great discretion. As he said several times, he would have preferred not to intervene at all but to leave the Council free. But several times, he reminded us that he was at least one of the Council fathers. There is something unsatisfactory about the way the pope, with his primacy, is related to the Council, of which the pope is a member. We lack a good theological and practical relationship between these two realities (and yet there has been an excellent relationship between them for 2,000 years. One only has to remember that the pope is not a member of the Council but its head, and that he is indispensable to the Council's validity.) Pope Paul VI intervened discreetly in some Commissions; he sent "modi" (modifications) to the Theological Commission several times, but left it free whether to adopt them or not. Sometimes the Commission rejected these "modi": He also intervened to have 19 "modi" inserted into the Decree on Ecumenism, which provoked a stir because the text had already been voted on by the whole Council. Of these 19 "modi, " only three or four were really concerned with the text. Pope Paul VI had no idea that his intervention would give rise to such a storm of protest. Finally, he did not want to have to repeat his action and asked that the texts should be given to him in good time, so that he could make his observations on them.

Here we must recall the episode of the Nota Praevia (Preliminary Explanatory Note) which was imposed by Pope Paul VI to make it clear in the traditional sense the term "collegiality" was to be understood. The very existence of this Nota Praevia (see following page), quite independently of what it contains, is one proof among many of the lack of intellectual rigor on the part of the Council's artisans. The most worrying thing, however, is the incoherent position of the Pope vis-a-vis the Council, as underlined by Fr. Congar. This is the attitude of a Head who has no awareness of his authority and who dares not intervene. At all events, he does not intervene very much, nor does he do so in a precise manner. We find an incoherent theological attitude here. On the one hand, from time to time, he is obliged to remind the fathers that he has the primacy, while on the other hand it seems that, with his "discreet" interventions, he is trying to win acceptance as one Council father among others (which he is not).

Is not this attitude an implicit avowal of that "conciliarism" - an ancient heresy going back to the 12th century - which affirmed that the Council is superior to the pope and which was condemned by Vatican I? Pope Paul VI has thus given the impression that he would be content with a simple primacy of honor: “primus in16 ter pares." This is precisely what the Orthodox schism claims. In any case, this strange Council leaves us with the question: was Pope Paul VI in charge of it, or was it in charge of him?

THE MODERNIST TYRANNY

The sequel is in line with this desire for emancipation on the part of the bishops. They demand that the Roman Curia be "internationalized": it is granted. They demand the reform of the Curia and of Church government: the reform was initiated on August 15, 1967, with the constitution Regimini Ecclesiae Universae, which satisfies those who were complaining of the "tyranny" of Rome. The Holy Office, whose essential task was to guard the integrity of the doctrine of Faith - which was why it was feared by the modernists - is liquidated to make room for a kind of Theologians' Academy without any coercive powers. The case of Hans Küng amply demonstrated this. The Consistory, a disciplinary congregation (a kind of council of the Episcopal Order), was also liquidated and replaced by a Congregation for Bishops without coercive powers. Moreover, all the congregations lose their autonomy and are now dependent on the Secretariat of State, which thus becomes the central organ of Church government, whereas the pope is reduced to a figurehead, like the sovereign of a modern state where the king reigns but does not govern. From 1967 on, a reign of inverse tyranny begins in the Church. The tyranny of the modernists, who have taken over all controls.

One beneficial effect of the new constitution Pastor Bonus of June 28, 1988, has been to restore to the Roman congregations a part of the autonomy which had been removed from them by the constitution Regimini Ecclesiae Universae, but that does not mean that the Church is safe. The evil has been done and the damage has not been repaired. Thirty years after Vatican II, the Church is 90% Protestant.

 

ATTEMPTS TO PROTESTANTIZE THE CHURCH

Once the boundaries were thrown down and the Roman guardianship shaken, the bishops, in their turn, saw their diocesan clergy adopting the same attitude towards them. Then the faithful did the same towards their parish clergy, thanks to the bad example set by those above them. We must even say that it was the clergy themselves who pushed the faithful to act in this way.

Thinking that they were doing well to adulate the laity, who were now invited to become “adult Christians,” bishops and clergy sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. In turn, the faithful made themselves independent. Who cannot see the enormous difference between “adult Christians” and Christian adults? In the wake of the Council, Christians who foolishly had been taught that henceforth they were “adults” grasped that this implied that they were to reject all tutelage, doctrinal and disciplinary, on the part of their pastors. That is how the mentality of the Protestant “freedom of conscience” has been insinuated into people’s minds, without the need -as Luther did long ago, at Wittenberg - to nail a series of theses to the Church doors, declaring the break with Rome. Luther's Protestantism was doctrinal; that of the modernists, for 30 years, has been practical. It is a Protestantism of deeds, it is concrete, but the result is the same. Why should we be surprised at the attempts to rehabilitate Luther? And what is the purpose of this rehabilitation? Perhaps to facilitate the return of Lutherans to the Catholic Church? ...Let's be serious for once!

And why should we be amazed at the demands made in the petition circulated last year in Germany by the group calling itself "We are Church”? The one thing follows directly from the other!

Insofar as these faithful - though it must be questioned whether they belong to the Church - regard themselves as liberated from hierarchical tutelage, and insofar as their thinking is unconsciously influenced by the democratic principles of modern society, they are only imitating the kind of false demands made by trade-unions in the economic and social sphere. To show them that they are in error, one would have to go right up to the top of the ladder of ideas and there one would arrive at the testimony of Fr. Congar:

One day John XXIII said that he wanted to open wide the Church's doors and windows: de facto the power of speech had been given to the Church, whereas under Pius XII, people were restricted to repeating the Pope's words.

In the world of ideas, there are some things as dangerous as grenades; when they are man-handled, they explode and the damage sometimes far exceeds all prediction.

 

BUT IT’S YESTERDAY’S POPES WHO ARE TO BLAME

Would the hierarchy have the courage, 30 years after Vatican II, to draw up the balance-sheet? Will it still say that, as some people have said, one has to distinguish between the Council and what came after it?

On this matter, Fr. Congar gave an astonishing answer to the readers of La Croix in 1976: those responsible for the post-conciliar confusion, he suggested, were Gregory XVI, Pius IX, Pius X and Pius XII, whose qualities as a very great pope he is quick to acknowledge, only to go on to attack him in what follows:

Many people have failed to take account of the radical change brought about by Vatican II. The Church of the period of Pius XII, who was a very great pope with extraordinary prestige and influence, was submissive in a way that the youngest people of today have not the least idea. Rome then exercised an extremely effective and rigorous control in all areas, based in part on a theology - Roman Scholasticism - but also on a canonical, ethical and cultural systems…The whole drama of the post-conciliar period is due to the fact that things that had been blocked and kept at bay for too long by a Church which kept its doors and windows closed, are now violently - and somewhat blindly - forcing their way in. A kind of vast thaw seems to be carrying everything away with it. To put it more precisely, the 18th and 19th centuries produced some noble values and achievements: confidence in human effort, in science, in progress, in the desire for freedom and the democratic awareness, in equality and social justice, in historical criticism…including that applied to the Bible. All this came about in a climate in which Man was exalted, and clearly the Church could not approve of this. Some people, it is true, began to distinguish between what was true and what was unacceptable, but in general, and particularly on the part of popes like Gregory XVI, Pius IX and, to some extent, Pius X, the Church's attitude was one of rejection - it was the mentality of a city under siege. Today doors and windows are open. It is impossible to rehabilitate two centuries of history within the space of 20 or 30 years. What we must do is acknowledge and accept things that have been forgotten for too long, while keeping in touch with the Faith. And here the Council gives us good guidance. It is not the Council which is the cause of the crisis but rather the fact that people ignore the crisis or fail to respond to it.

Clearly, then, the distant origin of the post-conciliar disorder and confusion must be sought in the narrow mentality of the popes of the 19th and 20th centuries, including Pius XII.

However, when one takes the trouble to analyze the "great new approach" of the Council, and when one has understood that this fundamental approach of rejecting Tradition, the substitution of sociology for theology, and all-round emancipation explains both the Council and what came after the Council, one has also grasped the intellectual continuity between them and the common cause they share.

 

CONCLUSIONS

It will be remembered that Fr. Congar was influential at the Council as a theologian, as one of its "experts." This is widely known. He himself was not slow to mention the fact and the journalists who interviewed him were happy to underline it, in order to give importance and authority to his utterances. What he said on the approach adopted by the Council, which is presented as a huge enterprise with a pastoral aim, and that had broken with the Counter-Reformation, cannot be neglected. The fact is that his observations on the achievement of Vatican II have not been rectified by the French episcopate nor by Rome. Not only has Fr. Congar not been disavowed, he was conferred with the cardinalitial dignity. This has given to his views, declarations, writings and publications, the highest guarantee he could have hoped for. Elevating him to the cardinalate, Pope John Paul II and the cardinals of the Curia have ratified Congar's views and commentaries on the Council's whole approach, giving them an official certificate of authority. From the simple religious he was in 1960, Cardinal Congar has thus become the Council's authorized interpreter, in the name of the hierarchy.

Having taken note of this, it will be easy to draw the following consequences - indeed, they are dazzlingly self-evident:

1.    In pursuing a "pastoral" aim which breaks with the Counter-Reformation, the artisans of Vatican II have first of all put themselves out of range of the assistance of the Holy Ghost. It follows from this that Vatican II is merely a human work, a work of Churchmen. Its declarations must, therefore, be evaluated by reference to traditional doctrine.

2.   Everything in the Council texts (constitutions, decrees, declarations) which calls for the faith and assent of the faithful would not be there had there not been 20 previous, authentic, infallible and irreformable councils. In other words, the Faith and adherence of the faithful has for its object, beyond Vatican II, all the doctrine formulated previously and which is found scattered here and there, in fragmentary allusions, in the Council texts.  This means that the Council, as a point of reference, is not only incomplete and therefore superfluous, but it is furthermore harmful insofar as it is contaminated by the modernist vein, which is a spiritual poison.                

Here it is appropriate to recall that the dogmatic constitution Dei Verbum, which deals with Divine Revelation and replaced the original schema entitled De Fontibus Revelationis, is considered to be the most important document since it gave the direction for the other conciliar texts. It directed the liturgical reform and, by refusing to ratify the theory of the two sources of revelation (Scripture and Tradition), it permitted - as they claim - a rapprochement with Protestants and exercised a considerable ecumenical influence…This is the constitution which, according to Fr. Congar, has put an end to the Counter- Reformation.

3.   In spite of appearances, therefore, Vatican II is a pseudo-council. From a totally different point of view, one could say that it was useful in the life and health of the Church in the way that, in the field of medicine, an abscess can be regarded as useful since it concentrates and localizes the organism's infection. Sooner or later, the "conciliar" men, identified with the modernists, will be eliminated from the Church.

No true progress, no ecclesial development, can be accomplished outside of Tradition, let alone where it is rejected. Yet that is what the artisans of Vatican II wanted and that is what they did. In this matter, Cardinal Congar has given us a formal, irrefutable testimony.

(Translated by Graham Harrison from Courrier de Rome, May 1998, for the Society of Saint Pius X's quarterly review in Ireland, St.John's Bulletin.)


1.Kerygma, kJ-rig'mJ(Gr. keryssein, to proclaim): The heralding or announcing of the king's coming. In the primitive Church it meant the proclamation of the Gospel as the good news of salvation. Today this term refers to the emphasis to be given to preaching, catechesis and theology, as a proclamation of God's word among men, centered in Christ. (Definition given in The Maryknoll Catholic Dictionary, 1965.)

 

 

ANNOUNCEMENT MADE BY THE SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE COUNCIL AT THE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-THIRD GENERAL CONGREGATION, NOV. 16, 1964

A query has been made as to what is the theological qualification to be attached to the teaching put forward in the schema The Church, on which a vote is to be taken.

The doctrinal commission has replied to this query in appraising the modi proposed to the third chapter of the schema The Church:

As is self-evident, the conciliar text is to be interpreted in accordance with the general rules which are known to all.

On this occasion, the doctrinal commission referred to its Declaration of Mar. 6, 1964, which we reproduce here:

Taking into account conciliar practice and the pastoral purpose of the present council, the sacred synod defined as binding on the Church only those matters of faith and morals which it has expressly put forward as such.

Whatever else it proposes as the teaching of the supreme magisterium of the Church is to be acknowledged and accepted by each and every member of the faithful according to the mind of the Council, which is clear from the subject matter and its formulation following the norms of the theological interpretation.

The following explanatory note prefixed to the modi of chapter three of the schema The Church is given to the Fathers, and it is according to the mind and sense of the note that the teaching contained in chapter three is to be explained and understood.

 

PRELIMINARY EXPLANATORY NOTE

The commission has decided to preface its assessment of the modi with the following general observations.

1. The word College is not taken in the strictly juridical sense, that is, as a group of equals who transfer their powers to their chairman, but as a permanent body whose form and authority is to be ascertained from revelation. For this reason it is explicitly said about the twelve apostles in the reply to modus 12 that Our Lord constituted them “as a college or permanent group” (cf. modus 53,c). In the same way the words “Order” or “Body” are used at other times for the college of bishops. The parallel between Peter and the apostles on the one hand, and the Pope and the bishops on the other, does not imply the transmission of the extraordinary power of the apostles to their successors, nor obviously does it imply equality between the head and members of the college, but only a proportion between the two relationships: Peter – apostles and popes – bishops. And therefore the commission decided to write in Art 2 not “in the same manner” (eadem ratione) but “in like manner”  (pari ratione).

2. A man becomes a member of the college through episcopal consecration and hierarchical communion with the head of the college and its members (cf. art.22. end of §1).

It is the unmistakable teaching of tradition, including liturgical tradition, that an ontological share in the sacred functions is given by consecration. The word function is deliberately used in preference to powers which can have a sense of powers ordered to action. A canonical or juridical determination through hierarchical authority is required for such power ordered to action. A determination of this kind can come about through appointment to a particular office or the assignment of subjects, and is conferred according to norms approved by the supreme authority. The need for a further norm follows from the nature of the case, because it is a question of functions to be discharged by more than one subject who work together in the hierarchy of functions intended by Christ. “Communion” of this kind was in fact a feature abiding in the varying circumstances of the life of the Church through the ages, before it was endorsed and codified by law.

For this reason it is expressly stated that hierarchical communion with the head and members is required. The idea of communion was highly valued in the early Church, and indeed it is today, especially in the East. It is not to be understood as some vague sort of goodwill, but as something organic which calls for a juridical structure as well as being enkindled by charity. The commission, therefore, agreed, almost unanimously, on the wording “in hierarchical communion” (cf. modus 40 and the statements about canonical mission in art.24).

The documents of recent popes dealing with episcopal jurisdiction are to be interpreted as referring to this necessary determination of powers.

3. There is no such thing as the college without its head: it is “The subject of supreme and entire power over the whole Church.” This much must be acknowledge lest the fullness of the pope’s power be jeopardized. The idea of college necessarily and at all times involves a head and in the college the head preserves intact his function as Vicar of Christ and pastor of the universal Church. In other words, it is not a distinction between the Roman Pontiff and the bishops taken together, but the Roman Pontiff by himself and the Roman Pontiff along with the bishops. The pope alone, in fact, being head of the college, is qualified to perform certain actions in which the bishops have no competence whatsoever, for example, the convocation and direction of the college, approval of the norms of its activity, and so (cf. Modus 18). It is for the pope, to whom the care of the whole flock of Christ has been entrusted, to decide the best manner of implementing this care, either personal or collegiate, in order to meet the changing needs of the Church in the course of time. The Roam Pontiff undertakes the regulation, encouragement, and approval of the exercise of collegiality as he sees fit.

 

4.   The pope, as supreme pastor of the Church, may exercise his power at any time, as he sees fit, by reason of the demands of his office. But as the Church’s tradition attests, the college, although it is always in existence, is not for that reason continually engaged in strictly collegiate activity. In other words, it is not always “in full activity” (in acta pleno); in fact it is only occasionally that it engages in strictly collegiate activity and that only with the consent of the head  (nonnisi consentiente capite). The phrase “with the consent of the head” is used in order to exclude the impresssion of dependence on something external; but the word “consent” entails communion between head and members and calls for this action which is exclusive to the head. The point is expressly stated in art. 22, §2 and it is explained at the end of the same article. The negative formulation “only with” (nonnisi) covers all cases: consequently it is evident that the norms approved by the supreme authority must always be observed (cf. modus 84).

Clearly it is the connection of bishops with their head that is in question throughout and not the activity of bishops independently of the pope. In a case like that, in default of the pope’s action, the bishops cannot act as a college, for this is obvious from the idea of “college” itself. This hierarchical communion of all bishops with the pope is unmistakably hallowed by tradition.

N.B.: - The ontologico–sacramental function, which must be distinguished from the juridico–canonical aspect, cannot be discharged without hierarchical communion. It was decided in the commission not to enter into questions of liceity and validity, which are to be left to theologians, particularly in regards to the power exercised de facto among separated Eastern Christians, about which there are divergent opinions. [Austin Flannery, O.P., Vatican Council II: The Conciliar and Post-Conciliar Documents, Vol. 1.]



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1 posted on 01/07/2005 7:59:56 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; BearWash; ...

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2 posted on 01/07/2005 8:01:06 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Land of the Irish; Agrarian; ultima ratio
"The justified objection to this method is that it has substituted external gestures for the internal act of faith and has given the non-believer license to perform sacred acts in virtue of "experience," whereas these acts are reserved by the Church to those who have the Faith and the necessary purity of heart. Thus it has authorized the non-believer to perform sacrilegious and gravely culpable acts). Applied to Ecumenism, this process consists, neither more nor less, in inviting Protestants and Orthodox to "act as if they were Catholics," in Pascal's terms and to join in (communicatio) the Church's liturgy (in sacris) after having accommodated it in order to make it easier for them to take this step. In other words, the liturgical reformers have lowered the threshold of orthodoxy so that the invited guests should not stumble at the first step."


This is a bit over the top, isn't it, in regards to the Orthodox? Does the SSPX really think that the botch job of the NO and the rather odd theology, in general, of Vatican II was meant to make it easier for the Orthodox to come over to Rome? If so, and I guess I can't imagine that they were that stupid, it was one more plan the Vatican II types had which went awry. I'm surprised that in 1998 the SSPX would be saying such a thing since it is so completely laughable. Beyond that, it hurts the credibility of the SSPX, even if the author's true purpose was to scare Roman Catholics into thinking they were being turned over to the tender mercies of us "oh so liberal Orthodox" by a bunch of Vatican II 5th columnists.
3 posted on 01/07/2005 8:25:01 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Does the SSPX really think that the botch job of the NO and the rather odd theology, in general, of Vatican II was meant to make it easier for the Orthodox to come over to Rome?

It's not the SSPX who is turning over holy relics to you all, in a pathetic attempt to curry favor.

4 posted on 01/07/2005 8:40:12 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Land of the Irish

bump


5 posted on 01/07/2005 11:06:11 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: Kolokotronis
"Does the SSPX really think that the botch job of the NO and the rather odd theology, in general, of Vatican II was meant to make it easier for the Orthodox to come over to Rome? If so, and I guess I can't imagine that they were that stupid"

Oh, you need to be able to imagine it, because it is true.

The ecumenism of Vatican II is a complete insult to the Orthodox.

6 posted on 01/08/2005 4:42:03 AM PST by Pio (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)
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To: Land of the Irish
"It's not the SSPX who is turning over holy relics to you all, in a pathetic attempt to curry favor"

No, its not. But then again, perhaps the Vatican should curry favor with Constantinople, given the direction the Roman Church is headed, which is definitely not towards a more traditional and spiritual form of Catholicism. In any event, the snip I posted had to do with liturgical reform, the NO I presume, and not the return of the relics of two great Eastern saints of Constantinople. Does the SSPX think that the NO was designed to attract Orthodoxy to an innovative Romanism? I honestly can't believe that who ever wrote this article has that little understanding of Orthodoxy so there must be another reason why Orthodoxy is mentioned. The irony of the remark is that it is precisely the Roman Catholic, anti-NO traditionalists, as it is with the Anglican traditionalists, who would be the most at home in Orthodoxy. We Orthodox can look at you people and see where you are coming from, even when we don't agree. When we look at the general run of Roman Catholicism in Europe and America, NO Roman Catholicism, we increasingly see modernist protestant abominations more inspired by the spirit of the age, a demon, than the Holy Spirit. Why then does the SSPX insist on taking shots at us? Your fight is with Rome, not us.
7 posted on 01/08/2005 5:05:15 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Pio; Land of the Irish
"Oh, you need to be able to imagine it, because it is true.

The ecumenism of Vatican II is a complete insult to the Orthodox."

In the earliest days of "ecumenism" between Rome and the East, Orthodox theologians did feel insulted by the attitude of many Roman theologians that the Orthodox theology was ossified while their systematic theology was dynamic. We got over it pretty quick since it was apparent that while we understood exactly what their theology was and where it was heading, they didn't have a clue about ours. The past 40 years have told the story. What changes, save perhaps being a bit more civil to Rome, has anyone seen Orthodoxy make to accommodate Rome? You know the answer, none. Some Romans make a big deal over the fact that the EP calls Rome "the Senior Church" at Rome, but Orthodoxy has always held that position. Others say that Constantinople is coming over because the EP participates in Liturgies at the Vatican...but he does not concelebrate nor does he receive communion and the Creed is prayed without the filioque. Frankly the only "insult" in present day Roman ecumenism towards Orthodoxy that I've heard of is the little blurb in the missalettes saying that the Orthodox are welcome to receive communion when Rome knows that Orthodoxy is absolutely against that. That does make some people mad.

Orthodoxy hasn't changed for 1700 years. It didn't change to accommodate the Mohammedans, I can assure you it won't change now to make the Catholic Workers crowd, gay pride priests, pro abortion nuns or even the Pope of Rome happy.
8 posted on 01/08/2005 5:32:53 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Bump for understanding.


9 posted on 01/08/2005 9:05:22 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Kolokotronis
If so, and I guess I can't imagine that they were that stupid, it was one more plan the Vatican II types had which went awry.

Perhaps not "stupid," but "disingenuous." They claimed that they needed to destroy the Mass for ecumenical reasons. Were they really stupid enough to believe it would work, or did they just have ulterior motives? And to give them credit, it hasn't worked yet, but they're still working feverishly on the "one world religion" agenda. They still hope it will happen.

I'm surprised that in 1998 the SSPX would be saying such a thing since it is so completely laughable.

You seem to have missed the point. Whether or not the plan was a good plan that might work does not change the historical fact of what happened at Vatican II. Simply saying that the council intended these gestures to make it easier for the protestants and orthodox to return does not mean that the SSPX supported the plan. Quite the contrary. You are shooting the messenger.

10 posted on 01/08/2005 9:10:28 AM PST by Maximilian
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I find it impossible to believe that even the Vatican II crowd thought that developing the NO Mass would seduce Orthodoxy, protestants maybe (to me the NO Mass looks like a marginally liturgical protestant "service") but not the Orthodox. The mutual lifting of the anathemas by +Paul Vi and +Athenagoras certainly was designed to make things better between the Church in the East and Rome, but that's not liturgy. Now I suppose some Vatican loon may have said that the NO was designed to seduce the Orthodox, but I bet milk came out of his nose when he said it!

It really does appear to me that this one comment in the posted article could have only one result, to scare Roman Catholics into thinking that the Orthodox bogeyman was coming to get them. By 1998 the SSPX should have known better. Any informed Catholic would accuse the SSPX of being disingenuous.
11 posted on 01/08/2005 9:27:01 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis; maximillian
Kolokotronis is right that the liturgical changes of Vatican II would do nothing but make Orthodox want to get further away from Roman Catholic worship. I think that many believed what they were being told by the liturgical leaders, and they were grossly ignorant.

Maximillian is, I think, probably right, though, that the leaders who pushed these "reforms" had a completely different agenda.

I will give an example: The "reformers" used the fact that the Holy Table for the Orthodox is situated in the altar such that one can walk around it, rather than having it be hard up against the wall. It is probable, given the early development of the liturgy, which was probably celebrated in people's homes, that this this is more ancient. The reason for its persistence in the Orthodox Church probably has some liturgical practical reason -- processions and liturgical movement take place around it, and it allows altar servers to move from one side to the other of the altar area without crossing in front of the Holy Table.

Now, the "reformers" had a very different agenda -- it wasn't to reproduce the liturgical movement and create greater reverence for the Table by having servers move behind it. They wanted to turn the priest around and face him at the people. Instead of being the one standing with the people and leading them in prayer and petition facing east toward Christ, he is now presiding over a communal meal. Many new Catholic churches take this even farther by building their nave "in the round," making the circle even more complete and closed. It is all about the here and now, about the "work of the people of God", etc...

If the "reformers had wanted to gain "light from the East," they would have known that the Orthodox priest always stands in front of the altar, facing it, and not the people.

The "reformers" took the parts of Orthodox practice they wanted to further their liberal agenda, and ignored the rest.

This phenomenon is well-known to Anglicans as well. Under the guise of returning to more Catholic worship, the 1979 BCP sneaked in texts that weakened traditional Anglican doctrinal and moral teaching. Bait and switch. Nothing new to see here...

12 posted on 01/08/2005 10:04:20 AM PST by Agrarian
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To: Kolokotronis
"Does the SSPX really think that the botch job of the NO and the rather odd theology, in general, of Vatican II was meant to make it easier for the Orthodox to come over to Rome?"

Why would you imagine that this article, Vatican II, or the protestantation of the Catholic Church has anything to do with the Eastern Orthodox? It was al done to lure you home? Eveything is not about you.

Any effort on the part of the Vatican to make nice with you people, I'm sure, is done on a separate path. Get over yourself.

13 posted on 01/08/2005 10:57:26 AM PST by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Arguss

If you had read the article, you'd have seen this:

"The justified objection to this method is that it has substituted external gestures for the internal act of faith and has given the non-believer license to perform sacred acts in virtue of "experience," whereas these acts are reserved by the Church to those who have the Faith and the necessary purity of heart. Thus it has authorized the non-believer to perform sacrilegious and gravely culpable acts). Applied to Ecumenism, this process consists, neither more nor less, in inviting Protestants and Orthodox to "act as if they were Catholics," in Pascal's terms and to join in (communicatio) the Church's liturgy (in sacris) after having accommodated it in order to make it easier for them to take this step. In other words, the liturgical reformers have lowered the threshold of orthodoxy so that the invited guests should not stumble at the first step."

That's why I responded the way I did. We don't like being used for any purpose by either side of your internecine battle.


14 posted on 01/08/2005 11:17:50 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Good post, as usual Kolokotronis.

In the earliest days of "ecumenism" between Rome and the East, Orthodox theologians did feel insulted by the attitude of many Roman theologians that the Orthodox theology was ossified while their systematic theology was dynamic.

Oh, it's dynamic alright, like Dr. Schuller's Hour of Power, including the long, zipper-front polyester-silk robe of the 'pastoral associate' doing an Oprah back and forth across the Altar. It's so dynamic it make you queasy.

As I've done before, I'd like to ask you a non-thread related question. Is it kosher to make bakalava with a mix of pistachios, walnuts and pecans?

15 posted on 01/08/2005 11:23:02 AM PST by AlbionGirl
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"As I've done before, I'd like to ask you a non-thread related question. Is it kosher to make bakalava with a mix of pistachios, walnuts and pecans?"

I have asked my wife who has moved far beyond her early years as a "Greek Lady in Training" to full Ellineetha status. She says that a mixture of nuts is both kosher and canonical, though she does say that pistachios are more appropriate to Lebanese buklewa rather than Greek buklava!


16 posted on 01/08/2005 11:56:27 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Buklava Bump, pass the buklava

....bump for East West Reunion...so we can breathe with both lungs...

17 posted on 01/08/2005 1:31:31 PM PST by Pio (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)
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To: Pio

Well, as "she who must be obeyed" says: Come for the food, stay for the religion! :)


18 posted on 01/08/2005 2:24:17 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis

I had read the paragraph, both in the article and in your reply.

Maybe I was a little reactionary, because actually I agree with you, to use the Orthodox in this article, in the context that it was used, is ridiculous. That would be the authors throwing out a big net hoping to get more fish.

It's just that I think what is going on in the Catholic Church is important, and I don't like to see every discussion of it turn in to a comparison with the Orthodox Church, of which I couldn't care less. But the world isn't about me, and people can talk about anything they like. So I apologize for my bad manners.


19 posted on 01/08/2005 4:05:35 PM PST by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Arguss

" So I apologize for my bad manners."

Don't worry about it!

"It's just that I think what is going on in the Catholic Church is important, and I don't like to see every discussion of it turn in to a comparison with the Orthodox Church, of which I couldn't care less."

You see, there's the difference between so many Romans and most Orthodox in this area. We care deeply about what happens in the Roman Church for any of a number of reasons. First and foremost, Rome is the Senior Church, as the EP recently said. Second, outside of Eastern Europe, we swim in a Roman Catholic sea in most places and being used by one side or the other to bash one side or the other only makes trouble for us and third, the prospects for intercommunion through at least economia seem better now than they have been for 600 years and yet because of the way we do things, what the clergy and laity think is often determinative of where the Church goes in an area like this. On the one hand, intercommunion is much to be desired, I think on both sides, on the other hand we, the clergy and laity, have to ask ourselves what we may be getting ourselves into. That is of course being all about us Orthodox. Frankly, if I were a Roman Catholic and trying to deal as best I could with the challenges facing my Church, I probably wouldn't care what Orthodoxy felt either, but probably I should.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 4:25:13 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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