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To: 1 spark
Okay, so the so-called "Constatinian" Church teaches that one is made righteous by Grace and not by law. If you believe, you will follow God's laws out of love for God, not because you "have to." If you truly love God you will repent for doing that which is wrong. It all comes down to faith. Your salvation is from God, not from your works. God saves people by His mercy. Nothing you do or say, or pay or pray can earn you that Grace. It's a gift.

Judaism does not require faith in order for someone to be acceptable to God. Christianity does. Your pick.

Number one, Jews don't feel the need to proselytize because they believe the good of all nations are favored by God

The good of all nations? Which, Gentiles? The non-Adams? The "others?" If they wanted to preach goodness of God to other nations, they sure had plenty of opportunity in the last 6,000 years or so.

Motive? it's always that suspicious motive that comes up, when nothing else can be said. My motive was to show that everyone has extreme views and, given the opporutnity, will use them because human nature is such, rotten and fallen, proud and arrogant. They may be a speck of dust "on the ass of an elephant" because, you will remember, God didn't pick the biggest, so it's all proportional but still human nonetheless. Human nature is fallen regardless how big they are.

191 posted on 01/16/2005 12:05:44 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
RE: Judaism does not require faith in order for someone to be acceptable to God. Christianity does. Your pick.

Constantinian Christianity asks me to believe that "God created humankind with free will and the ability to sin then demanded superlative perfection from this imperfect being that He created. Then God took on the guise of humanity in the form of Jesus in order to rescue His imperfect creation." OTOH, Rabbi Jesus,(a JEW who followed JUDAISM) asks us to love God, love our neighbor as ourself, and to REPENT when we sin.

I choose the latter.

If they wanted to preach goodness of God to other nations, they sure had plenty of opportunity in the last 6,000 years or so.

LOL! There ya go again...indifferent to their history which you choose to ignore. So be it. But don't worry Kosta, nowadays (ain't freedom wonderful!?) they're telling anyone who is interested all about God and what they believe. There are all kinds of websites and books that clearly, and beautifully, explain their belief for those interested....whether it be the devout Jew, the nominal Jew, the messianic Jew, the curious outsider, or those seeking to convert. Most of that information is a simple click away....available for those who seek.

209 posted on 01/16/2005 4:07:07 PM PST by 1 spark ("Rob Peter to pay Paul")
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