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To: Mike Fieschko; seamole
Well ... There were some French guys around 100 years ago who wanted some sort of non-modernist infected understanding of the Faith. They were called 'integrists'.

True. What they wanted was have long-held theological opinions be presented and taught as Doctrine.

Seamole, to answer your question "Is integrism a heresy?" Here's what Dietrich von Hildebrand, in his book 'The Devastated Vineyard', had to say:

"A short while ago, a well-known and important French theologian, who deplores the present devastation of the vineyard of the Lord, said to me that "integrists" were just as bad as "modernists"...This is obviously a great error. The narrowness of the integrists may be regrettable, but it is not heretical. It is not incompatible with the teaching of Holy Church. Therefore, it is completely senseless to place those who hold a philosophic thesis to be inseparable from Christian Revelation...on a level with those who promulgate philosophic theses which are in radical contradiction to the teaching of Holy Church...It is still a great mistake to believe that the integrists, who are pious, orthodox men, are just as dangerous to the Church as declared heretics...This attack from within is being conducted by all available means and propagated by the mass media; it is an epidemic, which growing more widespread every day. This is the real danger, a disintegration of the Church. With the integrists, on the other hand, there can be no question of such a danger."
20 posted on 12/29/2004 7:19:54 AM PST by sempertrad
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To: sempertrad
Here's what Dietrich von Hildebrand, in his book 'The Devastated Vineyard', had to say:

Thanks for the cite.

Do you have Chadwick's book?
22 posted on 12/29/2004 7:28:25 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (A thunder of jets in an open sky ... a streak of grey ... and a cheerful 'Hi!')
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To: sempertrad
"integrists" were just as bad as "modernists"...This is obviously a great error. The narrowness of the integrists may be regrettable, but it is not heretical. It is not incompatible with the teaching of Holy Church. Therefore, it is completely senseless to place those who hold a philosophic thesis to be inseparable from Christian Revelation...on a level with those who promulgate philosophic theses which are in radical contradiction to the teaching of Holy Church...It is still a great mistake to believe that the integrists, who are pious, orthodox men, are just as dangerous to the Church as declared heretics

What a great quote, thanks for posting this.

let's see, I can believe and quote Hand, or Dietrich von Hildebrand, and their positions on integrists are seemingly diametrically opposed.

Decisions, decisions. (/sarcasm)

29 posted on 12/29/2004 11:53:10 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (A fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer -or- Not every question deserves an answer.)
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