[pascendi]

"It seems that both Opus Dei and the Legionaries are dealing with the hands they have been dealt,as are FSSP and several other orders who offer the Tridentine Mass. They are all orthodox Catholics and in union with the Pope and the Ordinary Magisterium."

They aren't all orthodox. I have some in the extended family, and they are by no means friends of traditional Catholicism. Well intentioned? Perhaps.

We'd have discussions around the kitchen table several times on a myriad of topics. They're NeoCatholics, pure and simple. A real flare for externals, though.

It all comes down to loyalty to the Deposit of Faith.

[saradippity]

It all comes down to loyalty to the Deposit of Faith.

I agree. The only problem is that often we have no way to determine who is loyal to the Deposit of Faith except by watching what they say and how they act.

Archbishop Flynn has demmonstrated time and again that he is not loyal to the Deposit of Faith. I cannot think of anything that he has done or said,since the infamous HLI incidents,that shows otherwise.

Regards the other groups we are discussing on this thread,I find a lack facts to support accusations that they are not loyal to the Deposit of Faith. Opinions,yes; different perceptions,yes; failure to focus on all aspects of the Deposit of Faith,yes.Clear evidence of teaching contrary to the Deposit of Faith,No.

So given the givens,as I analyze them,abp. Flynn is identifying himself more and more clearly with those that seek to destroy the Church,wittingly or unwittingly,I have no idea. When I was a child there was a radio program called "The Dhadow",the sign-off line was:"Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of man".