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To: sinkspur

"There's nothing conservative about mind games, and the Legionnaires, and to a lesser extent Opus Dei, play on the maleable."

Sinky,

I don't get your axe-grinding sometimes.

As if any diocese USA has squeaky clean aspects to them in every way. As you know, they do not. It is pretty easy to lob bombs at these movements and then sit back and watch as the shrapnel hits good folks. I think it unbecoming and uncharitable.

The LoC has many kudos from JPII. Good enough for him, good enough for me.

(BTW, I have NO affiliation with ANY of the movements mentioned on this thread)


66 posted on 12/18/2004 9:52:01 AM PST by undirish01 (Go Irish! If only we can get the theology dept. turned around.)
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To: undirish01
As if any diocese USA has squeaky clean aspects to them in every way. As you know, they do not. It is pretty easy to lob bombs at these movements and then sit back and watch as the shrapnel hits good folks. I think it unbecoming and uncharitable.

There's nothing wrong with questioning the methods used by "movements." The Catholic Charismatic Renewal has done quite a bit of good in getting some Catholics back into prayer, but some prayer groups foster dependency in their members that is not healthy.

The LoC has a reputation for "fostering vocations" in people who have no business in the clergy.

There is a rapidly-expanding ecumenical movement in Europe (and to a lesser extent here in the states) known as Focolare. While it is doing a great deal of good, and is sanctioned by the Church, there is been some criticism of its exclusivity.

These groups are not for everybody.

I guess my objection is to anything that relies on emotion as a primary engine to fuel its growth.

70 posted on 12/18/2004 10:47:09 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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